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WizardNo1 Founding Member United StatesPosts: 504
Reply | 7 Oct 2010, 18:04:14 In reply to Grim Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT Result From Table 1 WizardNo1 wins (as White) vs. Kingsfull |
WizardNo1 Founding Member United StatesPosts: 504
Reply | 8 Oct 2010, 14:55:13 In reply to power Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT power makes an excellent point as to the impracticablity of double-round-robin correspondence tournamnets in which the games are played concurrently. In such a tournament organization, it is always possible for the lower-rated player simply to wait for the higher-rated player to make his first move as White, then to make that same move in his other game, then wait for his opponent to asnwer that move, and go back to the other game and duplicate that move. In effect, game 2 in a pairing is only a, "demonstration board" of game 1. The lower-rated player is thus assured of a split in the two games, either with two draws or a win and a loss. Therefore, if an organizer wishes to conduct a double-round-robin correspondence event, it is best done with the requirement that the first game between two players be completed before the second game is begun. This would, of course, double the length of the event, but it would solve the problem. The best solution, as I see it, is to organize and conduct only single-game round robins, just as Caissa does in its own correspondence events. Wiz Edited on 8 Oct 2010 at 15:04:48 |
yaman Founding Member United StatesPosts: 556
Reply | 8 Oct 2010, 19:31:36 In reply to WizardNo1 Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT Wiz While something like you describe could happen-i'd be surprised if it ever has.The same group of players normally join these events and I'd be shocked if anyone has ever done what you describe |
DOORMAN Founding Member United StatesPosts: 3105
Reply | 8 Oct 2010, 19:59:03 In reply to yaman Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT No i have'nt done that as anyone could tell from my games . I think it would be quite odvious if someone were doing that. D |
WizardNo1 Founding Member United StatesPosts: 504
Reply | 8 Oct 2010, 22:16:39 In reply to DOORMAN Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT It would make no difference if it were obvious or not. It is perfectly legal for a 1200 player to split with a 2400 player by using this method. As I see it, the 1200 player would simply be taking advantage of a flaw in the system, and be no more guilty of any wrongdoing than he would be if he took the 2400 player's Queen when he accidentally left it en prise. In short, concurrently run double-round-robin correspondence tournamets are flawed, and no player can be castigated for taking advantage of this flaw. In fact, the next time I am in a double-round-robin correspondence tournament with jaume1959, I am going to do it myself! LOL Wiz Edited on 8 Oct 2010 at 22:23:15 |
TrencherKnight Founding Member United StatesPosts: 378
Reply | 9 Oct 2010, 01:00:59 In reply to WizardNo1 Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT WizardNo1 said: Trencher, the first thing I suggest is that you go to Member Service, then to Select Interface and then let Caissa perform the tests to make sure your are set to use the Java Interface. Do that, and post here again if that does not tix things. Wiz No, darn it, it didn't "tix" :) it. It did recognize I had java though. |
Kingsfull Founding Member United StatesPosts: 155
Reply | 9 Oct 2010, 02:26:32 In reply to WizardNo1 Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT Some of us lower rated guys aren't smart enough to try that.
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kastelka Senior Member United StatesPosts: 111
Reply | 9 Oct 2010, 05:24:53 In reply to Kingsfull Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT Kingsfull said: Some of us lower rated guys aren't smart enough to try that. Are you game Kingsfull? |
TrencherKnight Founding Member United StatesPosts: 378
Reply | 9 Oct 2010, 18:25:14 In reply to Bartvinnik Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT I recently renewed my AVG subscription which inlcuded a "cleaning" tool for my pc.
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Kingsfull Founding Member United StatesPosts: 155
Reply | 9 Oct 2010, 22:34:23 In reply to kastelka Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT were on
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WizardNo1 Founding Member United StatesPosts: 504
Reply | 10 Oct 2010, 12:55:04 In reply to TrencherKnight Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT Did you USE the "Cleaning Tool" which came with the AVG renewal? Did AVG run it automatically? If the latter, something may have been done to your system which has caused the Caissa problem. Can you restore your system to just before you got the AVG renewal?
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TrencherKnight Founding Member United StatesPosts: 378
Reply | 10 Oct 2010, 21:53:49 In reply to WizardNo1 Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT I hesitate to do that because it'll erase the AVG software too. Caissa has been the only website effected by this change.
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DOORMAN Founding Member United StatesPosts: 3105
Reply | 11 Oct 2010, 03:31:32 In reply to TrencherKnight Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT TrencherKnight said: I hesitate to do that because it'll erase the AVG software too. Yea whatever Pal, It's starting to look like you might be scared to play this mot. Now stop being a sissymary and get down to the library and make your moves. D |
Vindicus Guest United StatesPosts: 0
Reply | 11 Oct 2010, 09:46:06 In reply to WizardNo1 Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT In live tournaments players often avoid playing their favorite defense against a particular opening so as not to expose the other player to any new ideas on how to win...Chessgames.com has an OPENING EXPLORER which may help players facing "mirrors" to take the "mirror" out of 'book'. |
Grim Founding Member United StatesPosts: 338
Reply | 11 Oct 2010, 13:31:56 In reply to WizardNo1 Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT WizardNo1 said: In such a tournament organization, it is always possible for the lower-rated player simply to wait for the higher-rated player to make his first move as White, then to make that same move in his other game, then wait for his opponent to asnwer that move, and go back to the other game and duplicate that move. In effect, game 2 in a pairing is only a, "demonstration board" of game 1. I think I've lived (partly) and benefited from that sort of play, but not as a strategy. In these double-round-robin games, I've seen a variety of responses to the classic openings we've explored, and I've learned from jaume, Wiz, power, and all the others on how to adapt to the positions. I think it's part of the benefit of the exposure. But I've never employed "mirroring" as a tactic, and *I'd like to believe the players on this site are honorable enough not to try it.* There comes a time when a player has to break away from book, or else run the risk of playing a move-by-move defeat, right? So, while there may be 3 or 4 given responses to 4. b4 in the Evans, we've all been exploring even the worst of them just to vary. (I've been playing 4 ... Nxb4 against Blue and one or two others -- ultimately, a bad decision. :) |
WizardNo1 Founding Member United StatesPosts: 504
Reply | 11 Oct 2010, 17:30:15 In reply to Grim Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT I will speak my piece as to, "honor" and chess later, but for now I will just ask, isn't it the honorable thing to do to update the crosstable? |
Grim Founding Member United StatesPosts: 338
Reply | 11 Oct 2010, 18:06:29 In reply to WizardNo1 Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT WizardNo1 said: isn't it the honorable thing to do to update the crosstable? It's been updated for all the game results that have been posted to this thread. :) |
power Elite Member NorwayPosts: 181
Reply | 11 Oct 2010, 20:44:09   Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT rem-power 0-1
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WizardNo1 Founding Member United StatesPosts: 504
Reply | 12 Oct 2010, 06:38:44 In reply to Grim Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT Evans Gambit Tournament Result Kingsfull 0 WizardNo1 1 |
jaume1959 Senior Member SpainPosts: 207
Reply | 12 Oct 2010, 18:37:01   Re: Official Thread: Evans Gambit MOT Evans Gambit Tournament Result Croostable 1 Grim - jaume1959 0-1 |
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