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Topic started by pazuzu on 29 Sep 2008, 05:25:25
pazuzu
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29 Sep 2008, 05:25:25
 
Leap Frog: Lost & Found - Sign up
Leap Frog: Lost & Found is based on an idea by SouthernComfort.

It will play like leap frog except for the following changes:

1. If a player misses a turn his team loses a piece. The piece that gets lost will be the lowest value piece that team has on the board.

2. If a team can make it through 10 moves without anybody missing a turn then their team will get a piece added to the board. The lowest value piece rule will apply here also with one exception. Neither team will get a piece added that will give the team a total that is more than what they started with at the beginning of the game, for example, a team can not have a pawn added if they have 8 pawns on the board after ten moves.

If a team has all 8 pawns they will get a knight added. If they have both knights they will get a bishop added. If they have both bishops they will get a rook added. If they have both rooks they will get a queen added. If they have a queen then they get nothing added.
 
Once a team makes 10 moves then the game will have to be put on hold until I get the new piece added. Any moves made early will have to be played over. I will provide a visual to help keep track and hopefully everyone will know not to make an early move.

3. I will need to use a FEN string for this game and since it'll be a lot easier for me to generate the string with my computer chess program I will not be playing as to not have any accusations of cheating. I will also use the program to make sure the piece I'm adding or taking away does not give a team a bigger advantage than the piece deserves.

4. While the move list generated on the board will be accurate it won't work perfectly. You won't be able to move through the list move by move and the list will not automatically show the last move, you'll have to manually scroll down the list to see the moves.
 
This is a guinea pig game, and I'm sure we'll run into problems, but there shouldn't be anything that can't be fixed.
 
If there are any questions or suggestions please feel free to ask. In the mean time I'll see about setting up some example games.
 
pazuzu
pazuzu
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29 Sep 2008, 16:08:04
 
Re: Leap Frog: Lost & Found - Sign up
Here is an example game: I'll have to do it in multiple post in order to show the board in each position.
 

Team 1 Team 2
 
Player1 Player2
Player3 Player4
Player5 Player6

 

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteELO "?"]
[BlackELO "?"]
[SetUp "1"]
e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 Nf6 O-O Nxe4 d4 Nd6 Bxc6 dxc6 dxe5 Nf5 Qxd8+ Kxd8 Nc3 Be6 Ng5 Be7
[FEN "r2k3r/ppp1bppp/2p1b3/4PnN1/8/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1B2RK1 w KQkq - 0 10"]
 
%Created by Caissa's Web PGN Editor
%Display=999
 

 

1. Player1 e4 1 Player2 e5 1
2. Player1 Nf3 2 Player2 Nc6 2
3. Player3 Bb5 3 Player2 Nf6 3
4. Player3 O-O 4 Player4 Nxe4 4
5. Player3 d4 5 Player4 Nd6 5
6. Player5 Bxc6 6 Player4 dxc6 6
7. Player5 dxe5 7 Player6 Nf5 7
8. Player5 Qxd8+ 8 Player6 Kxd8 8
9. Player1 Nc3 9 Player6 Be6 9
10.Player1 Ng5 10 Player2 Be7 10

 
Here both teams have successfully made 10 moves and each team will get a pawn added. The pawns will be added before each side makes their next move, so the white pawn will be added, white will make their move, the black pawn will be added, black will make their move.
 
Continued next post
 
Edited on 29 Sep 2008 at 16:33:28
pazuzu
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29 Sep 2008, 16:21:54
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Re: Leap Frog: Lost & Found - Sign up

Team 1 Team 2
 
Player1 Player2
Player3 Player4
Player5 Player6

 

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteELO "?"]
[BlackELO "?"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r2k3r/ppppb1pp/2p1p3/4Pn2/8/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1B2RK1 w KQkq - 0 11"]
 
%Created by Caissa's Web PGN Editor
%Display=999
 

 
 

1. Player1 e4 1 Player2 e5 1
2. Player1 Nf3 2 Player2 Nc6 2
3. Player3 Bb5 3 Player2 Nf6 3
4. Player3 O-O 4 Player4 Nxe4 4
5. Player3 d4 5 Player4 Nd6 5
6. Player5 Bxc6 6 Player4 dxc6 6
7. Player5 dxe5 7 Player6 Nf5 7
8. Player5 Qxd8+ 8 Player6 Kxd8 8
9. Player1 Nc3 9 Player6 Be6 9
10.Player1 Ng5 10 Player2 Be7 10
found pawn d2
11.Player1 Nxg6 1 found pawn d7
Player2 fxe6 1
12.Player3 Ne2 2 Player2 Rf8 2
13.Player3

 
Here is the game after the pawns were added. Now Player3 will miss his move and white will lose a pawn.
 
Continued next post
Edited on 29 Sep 2008 at 16:35:29
pazuzu
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29 Sep 2008, 16:30:22
 
Re: Leap Frog: Lost & Found - Sign up

Team 1 Team 2
 
Player1 Player2
Player3 Player4
Player5 Player6

 

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteELO "?"]
[BlackELO "?"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "r2k1r2/ppppb1pp/2p1p3/4Pn2/8/8/1PPPNPPP/R1B2RK1 w KQkq - 0 12"]
 
%Created by Caissa's Web PGN Editor
%Display=999
 

 
 
 
 

1. Player1 e4 1 Player2 e5 1
2. Player1 Nf3 2 Player2 Nc6 2
3. Player3 Bb5 3 Player2 Nf6 3
4. Player3 O-O 4 Player4 Nxe4 4
5. Player3 d4 5 Player4 Nd6 5
6. Player5 Bxc6 6 Player4 dxc6 6
7. Player5 dxe5 7 Player6 Nf5 7
8. Player5 Qxd8+ 8 Player6 Kxd8 8
9. Player1 Nc3 9 Player6 Be6 9
10.Player1 Ng5 10 Player2 Be7 10
found pawn d2
11.Player1 Nxg6 1 found pawn d7
Player2 fxe6 1
12.Player3 Ne2 2 Player2 Rf8 2
Player3 missed move
lost pawn a2

13.Player5 d4 1 Player4 d5 3

Edited on 29 Sep 2008 at 16:36:48
SnoopDog176
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29 Sep 2008, 23:02:20
 
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Sounds good.
A bit confusing, but since all the found pieces are placed automatically, I don't think players have to be fully understanding in the rules in order to play it.
 
learn by playing. I'm game.
 
 
 
yaman
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30 Sep 2008, 00:01:44
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i'll give it a go
pazuzu
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30 Sep 2008, 06:51:17
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SnoopDog176 said:
A bit confusing, but since all the found pieces are placed automatically, I don't think players have to be fully understanding in the rules in order to play it.
 
learn by playing. I'm game.
 
Well, it not exactly automatic, I have to place all the pieces myself.
There isn't really all that much to understand, you know the rules for leap frog so all you have to add id that when someone misses a move his team loses a piece, when a team makes 10 moves in a row without missing a move they get a piece added.
 
It could have been a lot trickier. I was originally going to make it so that when a team makes 10 moves they get a pawn, if they make it through 20 moves then they get a knight, 30-bishop, 40-rook and 50-Queen. In the end I figured the game would never end if everybody made their moves on time.
 
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30 Sep 2008, 21:37:11
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include me please.
 
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TrencherKnight
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1 Oct 2008, 03:33:27
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Ok, I'm still in.
 
And there wasn't an appropriate emoticon to add.
 
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2 Oct 2008, 03:27:17
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any room left?
pazuzu
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2 Oct 2008, 04:31:48
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Plenty of room left.
 
pazuzu
power
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2 Oct 2008, 19:46:32
 
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what is this???chess
pazuzu
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3 Oct 2008, 05:52:11
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It's a leap frog game with a couple of new rules. A team will lose a piece if a player misses a turn and they will get a piece if nobody misses a turn in 10 moves. I feel this will keep the game alive a lot longer.
 
Why are you calling me a troll?
 
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SouthernComfort
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3 Oct 2008, 15:22:03
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Of course I want to play. You are implementing my idea! Although, I just sort of blurted it out as an punishment for missed moves. You have done a lot of thought and testing. Kudos as usual!
 
If this BB allowed us to assign +rep, you would have the most by far.
 
--SoCo
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4 Oct 2008, 10:45:04
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Please add me to the list. grevillea
pazuzu
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6 Oct 2008, 07:15:44
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I'll get this game started as soon as we get one more player.
 
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grevillea
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7 Oct 2008, 10:42:35
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If we don't get a new player soon, I will offer to withdraw from the list, in the interest of getting the game up and running. See'in as I was last in.
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7 Oct 2008, 14:25:33
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grevillea said:
If we don't get a new player soon, I will offer to withdraw from the list, in the interest of getting the game up and running. See'in as I was last in.
 
Nahhh, stay put, grev.
 
we can advertise, if we have to.
 
talk it up with someone you like in your corr games, that is one way.
 
or email friends.
 
or mail ppl on the keres or PPV theme tourney. those are active members.
 
be patient. they don't call him the Great Pazuzu for nothing!
 
and maybe Pazu will take that final spot, too.
pazuzu
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7 Oct 2008, 15:36:17
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Plus I don't want to start the game with less than 8 people. I would play myself but I need to use my computer program to generate the FEN string needed to post the board on the BB and to make sure the pieces added or taken away don't give more of an advantage or disadvantage than they are suppose to give.
 
Somebody will sign up sooner or later, I hope...
 
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pazuzu
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8 Oct 2008, 20:02:24
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I'm going to give this until Oct 18 to get one more player. If nobody else shows up I'll either cancel the game or I could add my name to the list and we can play a normal leap frog game.
 
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