"This is one of those moments in history when it is worth pausing and reflecting on the basic facts: An American with the name Barack Hussein Obama, the son of a white woman and a black man he barely knew, raised by his grandparents far outside the stream of American power and wealth, has been elected the 44th president of the United States."
 
Gotta love the United States of America.
 
 
 

greenjeans,,
 
I could care less, personally about all the strikes he has had against him. that can actually work in his favor.
 
I just hate his politics but he is hardly the only one.

I am so elated that we still have a Democracy. No dout about it this can only happen in AMERICA.
 
D

A great time for the USA.
 
I just realized tonight as I heard that Obama won, I have never before voted for a president that actually won. It feels pretty good. Not good enough that I'm going to give up my quest for a third party victory, but still good.
 
pazuzu

 
 
Say, Whhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....?
 
Pazu, I have never known you to be anything but hardcore democrat.
 
do you care which 3rd party emerges?
Because I know one thing,, the republicans clearly threw their core values right out the window with this last administration and I cannot see any upstanding republican staying with the party. I think the Republican party is going to disappear but something else will emerge.
 
but what?
 

No, I'm not a hard core democrat, although I don't mind if anyone wants to call me one. I am hard core anti-republican. Gore was the first Democrat I ever voted for. Before that I always voted Independent, except for when Perot ran, that time I voted for some other third party candidate.
 
So what started my dislike for the Republicans? This did:
 
The following exchange took place at the Chicago airport between Robert I. Sherman of American Atheist Press">American Atheist Press and George Bush, on August 27 1987. Sherman is a fully accredited reporter, and was present by invitation as a member of the press corps. The Republican presidential nominee was there to announce federal disaster relief for Illinois. The discussion turned to the presidential primary:
 
RS: "What will you do to win the votes of Americans who are atheists?"
 
GB: "I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me."
 
RS: "Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?"
 
GB: "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
 
RS: "Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?"
 
GB: "Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists."
 
UPI reported on May 8, 1989, that various atheist organizations were still angry over the remarks.
 
The exchange appeared in the Boulder Daily Camera on Monday February 27, 1989. It can also be found in Free Inquiry magazine, Fall 1988 issue, Volume 8, Number 4, page 16.
 
On October 29, 1988, Mr. Sherman had a confrontation with Ed Murnane, cochairman of the Bush-Quayle 1988 Illinois campaign. This concerned a lawsuit Mr. Sherman had filed to stop the Community Consolidated School District 21 (Chicago, Illinois) from forcing his first-grade atheist son to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States as "one nation under God" (Bush's phrase). The following conversation took place:
 
RS: "American Atheists filed the Pledge of Allegiance lawsuit yesterday. Does the Bush campaign have an official response to this filing?"
 
EM: "It's bullsh!t."
 
RS: "What is bullsh!t?"
 
EM: "Everything that American Atheists does, Rob, is bullsh!t."
 
RS: "Thank you for telling me what the official position of the Bush campaign is on this issue."
 
EM: "You're welcome."
 
After Bush's election, American Atheists wrote to Bush asking him to retract his statement. On February 21st 1989, C. Boyden Gray, Counsel to the President, replied on White House stationery that Bush substantively stood by his original statement, and wrote:
 
As you are aware, the President is a religious man who neither supports atheism nor believes that atheism should be unnecessarily encouraged or supported by the government.
 
I didn't feel the need to start voting for the Democrats until the son of the religiously insane was nominated. Dumbya is even worse than Poppy is.
 
Any party that can vote for these religiously insane @ssholes can kiss my @ss, and I did what I could to try to get them out of office.
 
pazuzu

I see, Pazu,,,,
 
did not know that.