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ZENknight Senior Member CanadaPosts: 672
Reply | 2 Nov 2008, 17:38:40   At the Risk of 'Overkill,' to Some; A, 'Q & A,' from, "got questions {dot} org" Question: "Why does God require faith? Why doesn't God "prove" Himself to us so there is no need for faith?" Answer: Our relationship with God is similar to our relationship with others in that all relationships require faith, and I can never and will never fully know any other person. This is because we are incapable of fully knowing others because we cannot experience all they experience nor enter into their minds to know what their thoughts and emotions are. Proverbs 14:10 says, "The heart knows its own bitterness, and a stranger does not share its joy." We are even incapable of knowing our own heart fully. Jeremiah 17:9 says that the human heart is wicked and deceptive, and this verse asks concerning the human heart, "Who can know it?" In other words, the human heart is such that it seeks to hide the depth of its wickedness and gloss over it, deceiving even its owner. We do this through blame shifting, justifying wrong behavior, minimizing our sins, etc. Because we are incapable of fully knowing fellow humans, to some degree faith (trust) is an integral ingredient in all relationships. For example, my wife gets into a car with me driving, trusting me to drive safely, even though I drive faster than she does on winter roads. She and my children trust me to act in their best interest when handling finances or when I am away from them and can choose to act in faithfulness to them or not. We all share information about ourselves with others, trusting they won't betray us with that knowledge. We drive down the road, trusting those driving around us to follow the rule of the road. So, whether with strangers or with intimate friends and companions, because we cannot fully know others, trust is always a necessary component of our relationships. If we cannot know our fellow finite human beings fully, how can we expect to fully know an infinite God? Even if He should desire to fully reveal Himself, it is impossible for us to fully know Him. It is like trying to pour the ocean (seemingly infinite in quantity) into a quart-measuring jar (finite)... impossible! But nonetheless, even as we can have meaningful relationships with those around us that we have grown to trust because of our knowledge of them and of their character, so God has revealed enough about Himself through His creation (Romans 1:18-21), through His written word, the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:16-21), and through His Son (John 14:9) that we can enter into a meaningful relationship with Him. But this is only possible when the barrier of one's sin has been removed by coming to trust in Christ's person and work on the cross as payment for one's sin. This is necessary because, as it is impossible for both light and darkness to dwell together, so it is impossible for a holy God to have fellowship with sinful mankind unless our sin has been paid for and removed. Jesus Christ, the sinless Son of God, died on the cross to take our punishment and change us so that the one who believes on Him can become a child of God and live eternally in His presence (John 1:12; 2 Corinthians 5:21; 2 Peter 3:18; Romans 3:10-26). There have been times in the past that God has revealed Himself more "visibly" to people. One example of this is at the time of the exodus from Egypt, when God revealed His care for the Israelites by sending the miraculous plagues upon the Egyptians until they were willing to release the Israelites from their slavery. God then opened up the Red Sea, enabling the approximately two million Israelites to cross over on dry ground. Then, as the Egyptian army sought to pursue them through the same opening, He defeated this enemy by bringing the waters upon them. Later, in the wilderness, God fed them miraculously with manna, guided them in the day by a pillar of cloud and by night by a pillar of fire, visible representations of His presence with them. He also obtained water for this great number of people in the wilderness through miraculous means, including causing water to flow from a rock as Moses struck it with his rod. Yet, in spite of these repeated demonstrations of His love, guidance, and power, they still refused to trust Him when He wanted them to enter into the Promised Land. They chose instead to trust the word of ten men who frightened them with their stories of the walled cities and the giant stature of some of the people of the land, and to ignore the counsel of two godly men who encouraged them to trust God who had always been faithful. These events, found in the books of Exodus and Numbers, show that God's further revealing Himself to us would have no greater effect on our ability to trust Him. For were God to interact in a similar fashion with all of the people living today, we would respond no differently than did those Israelites...our sinful hearts are the same as theirs. But even as a few of the Israelites chose to trust God based on what He had revealed of Himself in the past and were willing to trust Him for the future, (going into the Promised Land - Numbers 13:1-14:9), so we can choose to trust Him for our future based upon what He has already revealed about Himself and His character. The Bible also speaks of a future time when the glorified Christ will return to rule the earth from Jerusalem for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1-10). More people will be born on the earth during that reign of Christ. He will rule with complete justice and righteousness, yet in spite of His perfect rule, the Bible states that at the end of the 1,000 years, Satan will have no trouble raising up an army of men to rebel against and to seek to overthrow Christ's rule. The future event of the millennium and the past event of the exodus reveal that the problem is not with God insufficiently revealing Himself to man; rather, the problem is with man's sinful heart rebelling against God's loving reign because it craves its own sinful self-rule. God has revealed enough of His nature for us to be able to trust Him. He has declared and shown through the events of history, in the workings of nature, and through the life of His only-begotten Son, Jesus Christ, that He is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-wise, all-loving, all-holy, unchanging, and eternal. And in that revelation, He has shown that He is worthy to be trusted. But as with the Israelites in the wilderness, the choice is ours as to whether or not we will trust Him. Often, one is inclined to make this choice based on what he/she thinks he knows about God rather than what He has revealed about Himself and can be understood about Him through a careful study of His inerrant word, the Bible. I encourage you to begin this careful study of the Bible, that you may come to know God through a reliance upon His Son, Jesus Christ, who came to earth to save us from our sin so that we might have sweet companionship with God both now and in a fuller way in heaven one day. |
pazuzu Founding Member United StatesPosts: 852
Reply | 2 Nov 2008, 18:09:05 In reply to ZENknight Re: At the Risk of 'Overkill,' to Some; A, 'Q & A,' from, "got questions {dot} org" Fraud Alert! ZENknight is a fraud and does not really believe in anything he posts about his dog. pazuzu |
SnoopDog176 Senior Member Occupied Palestinian TerritoryPosts: 918
Reply | 2 Nov 2008, 20:00:49 In reply to ZENknight Re: At the Risk of 'Overkill,' to Some; A, 'Q & A,' from, "got questions {dot} org" ZENknight said: Answer: Our relationship with God is similar to our relationship with others in that all relationships require faith, oh, please. so I could fall in love with my wife - sight unseen, with just faith???? I never see her, talk to her, touch her, just know a tiny bit about her from things people wrote down about her....? this is just plain drivel. it is only human nature to want KNOW as best we can the entity that we are being beseached to wrap our entire lives around. we may not know EVERYTHING but it is way better than knowing NOTHING. It is especially true that you wished to personally know the entity before foolishly throwing yourself at it because some say the entity does not exist anyway,, OR,, does not care enough about us to even verify its existence, let alone state what it feels for us. gee,,,,, I wonder why that is...? Am I being asked to love and cherrish a MYTH....? Am I being asked to love and cherrish a being that could care LESS about me....? Hello, God......? CITATION needed here!!!! Please help! I think I will wait until the object of my affection confirms he at least exists and does care. Thanks anyway. Edited on 2 Nov 2008 at 20:02:28 |
ZENknight Senior Member CanadaPosts: 672
Reply | 2 Nov 2008, 20:36:49 In reply to ZENknight Re: At the Risk of 'Overkill,' to Some; A, 'Q & A,' from, "got questions {dot} org" "For those who believe; No explanation is necessary; For those who Don't, or Refuse to believe; No explanation, is satisfactory." Which is why, I'm fairly certain,'Snoop'; That the following 'cut & paste' link, {one of Many}; Of 'JC' being foretold of, in the 'Old Testament,' {pre-dating, the 'NT'..D-u-h?!}; Will, once again; Be like 'water off a duck's back'!; Yours!.. But, obviously; Thanks to a 'combo' of "Satan"s 'blinding' {most} people, to the {ultimate} 'Truth'; Plus, our own 'fallen' & often stubborn, 'free will'; Even Jesus predicted, in so many words; That Most people, would Not.. 'get it'! ..{modern-day vernacular}. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And now below we supply all of the verses that we referenced above as being a witness to the prophesied Jesus Christ, stated long before He was even born. In italics next to the chapter and verse, we supply a quick note on the relevance of the verse in regards to Jesus Christ. Remember all these Scriptures were written long before Jesus Christ was born. It would benefit the reader to go to each Scripture in their Bible and read the supplied verses in their proper context. For space considerations we will 'zero-in' on the specific verse as much as possible. Gen 3:15 (The first prophecy in the Bible, Jesus was to be that seed of the woman) 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (KJV) Gen 22:18 (Jesus was the promised seed of Abraham) 18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. (KJV) Gen 26:4 (In Jesus, the seed of Abraham through Isaac, the whole world is blessed) 4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; (KJV) Gen 49:10 (The sceptre [scepter] denotes King, Shiloh means Peace; Jesus is the King of Peace) 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. (KJV) Num 21:6-9 (This was a 'type' of Jesus Christ, see [John 3:12-16]) 6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. 8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. (KJV) Num 24:17 (Jesus was a descendant of Jacob from Isaac, from Abraham; Jesus was the King from Israel) 17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth. (KJV) Deut 18:15 (Jesus was sent from God in the form of a man) 15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; (KJV) Ps 16:9-11 (Jesus was The Holy One whose resurected body did not decay; He is now at the right hand of God forever) 9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. 10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. 11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore. (KJV) Ps 22:all (The entire Psalm 22 is Christ on the cross, written 1000 years ahead of time) Ps 22:1 (Christ's first words from the cross, God did not forsake Jesus, nor was Jesus implying so, but rather, Jesus was drawing our attention the this Psalm as He hung on the cross. Below we supply the New Testament Scripture were Jesus fulfills this Psalm) 1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? (KJV) Matt 27:46 (Prophecy fulfilled 1000 years later. Jesus uses pure Hebrew with one Aramaic verb) 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (KJV) Ps 22:14 (Blood and water from Jesus' side. Bones out of joint from hanging on the cross) 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. (KJV) Ps 22:16 (Christ's hands and feet pierced as He was nailed to the cross) 16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. (KJV) Ps 22:18 (This was fulfilled with Jesus in [Luke 23:34] below. The psalms are dated to 1000B.C.) 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. (KJV) Luke 23:34 (The prophecy fulfilled in Christ Jesus) 34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. (KJV) Ps 132:11 (Jesus, the descendant of David would sit on the Heavenly Throne) 11 The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne. (KJV) Isa 7:14 (Immanuel in Hebrew means: 'God with us'. Jesus Christ (Jehoshua Christos) means: 'God Savior', The Anointed One. These titles are in two different languages but are the same thing. Jesus is Immanuel - God with us. Below this Scripture we supply the fulfillment of it with Jesus Christ.) 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. (KJV) Matt 1:21 (self explanatory) 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. (KJV) Luke 1:30-35 (self explanatory) 30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. (KJV) Isa 9:6-7 (self explanatory) 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. (KJV) Isa 40:10-11 (self explanatory) 10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. 11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young. (KJV) Isa 50:6 (Jesus flogged [Matt 27:26]. Jesus mocked [Mat 27:29] Jesus spit upon [Mat 27:30]) 6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. (KJV) Isa 52:13-15 (Jesus was beaten much worse than was normal Roman punishment, but His blood covers us all as a cleansing before the Lord God) 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. (KJV) Isa 53:1-12 (Jesus would come appearing as a simple flesh man, not as the Mighty and Noble Son of God that He truly was) 1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. (KJV) Isa 60:21 (Jesus is the Branch [Jer 23:5-6]. See next Scripture) 21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. (KJV) Jer 23:5-6 (self explanatory) 5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. (KJV) Jer 33:14-15 (Jesus, the Branch, was a descendant of David) 14 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah. 15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. (KJV) Ezek 34:23 (Jesus is that Shepherd for all time, even over his ancestor David. See below Scripture) 23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. (KJV) Matt 22:42-46 (Jesus is Lord over all, even David, His ancestor) 42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? 46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions. (KJV) Ezek 37:25 (Jesus, the ancestor of David would reign forever) 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. (KJV) Ezek 37:24-25 (Jesus' ancestors being used to refer to Him. Only Jesus reigns eternally, this did not Jacob and David do. They died. Jesus died, resurrected and sits at the right (the power hand) hand of God on the throne. This Is not so of Jacob or David) 24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. (KJV) Dan 9:24-26 This is probably one of the more powerful witnesses that Jesus Christ was in fact The Messiah. This prophesies the exact year of Jesus Christ's crucifixion (who would not even be born for another four hundred and some odd years from the time of this writing). Below, each week is seven years. In verse 25 you have seven weeks [seven sevens = 49 years] and three score and two weeks [62 weeks is 62 sevens = 434 years]. So you have: "that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem" till : "shall Messiah be cut off" , is 69 weeks [69 sevens] = 483 years. The command to restore the Temple was given in 454 B.C. [Neh 2:1 &2:18]. Therefore, from the command to restore the Temple in 454 B.C. to the crucifixion of the Messiah in A.D. 29 you have exactly 483 years as prophesied. Below is that prophecy: Dan 9:24-26 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. (KJV) Micah 5:2 (Jesus was the one who "came out of thee") 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. (KJV) Micah 7:18-20 (speaking of the Messiah Jesus Christ) 18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy. 19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. 20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old. (KJV) Zech 6:12-13 (self explanatory, Jesus is the BRANCH) 12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: 13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both. (KJV) Zech 9:9 (The first Advent of Christ, fulfilled in [John 12:15-16] below) 9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. (KJV) John 12:15-16 (Jesus fulfills the prophecy) 15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. 16 These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him. (KJV) Zech 9:10 (The second Advent of Christ yet to be fulfilled, see [Rev19:11-16]) 10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth. (KJV) Zech 12:8-10 (Second Advent, see [Rev 1:7-8]) 8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (KJV) Zech 13:7 (Jesus is the Shepherd, the 12 Disciples were the sheep, fulfilled in [Matt 26:31 & 56] below) 7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. (KJV) Matt 26:31 31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad. (KJV) Matt 26:56 56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. (KJV) Mal 3:1-4 (John the Baptist, in the spirit of Elijah, came before Jesus, see [Luke 1:13-17 & Luke 3:15-17]) 1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness. 4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years. (KJV) Mal 4:2-6 (Jesus is the Sun of Righteousness, the Bright and Morning Star*, the Star of David) 2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts. 4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. (KJV) *NOTE: Satan also has copied the name "morning star." |
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