Snoop, you already rejected, {to the best of my knowledge}, the 'Sign' {of fulfilled prophecy; And God, by extension}, Re. Luke21:24; Regarding the Jewish people/nation retaking all of Jerusalem; which happened in the 1947-48 "War of Independence."
 
.. Not surprising, given that you believe that the Arabs then living in Palestine, in many, if not all cases, had their land 'stolen' from them!
 
Anyway, perhaps, 'Snoop,' you'll be hearing it here, {on this 'bb'} first!; As regards two separate Bible prophecies, Yet to look for, {as in, have yet to take place}; And which both can be 'googled'; some with 'background' info.
 
And they are: Dah-Dah-h-h: #1. 'Damascus {Syria} will be destroyed,' {according to the Bible}, and it's Never been destroyed; Yet, that is.
 
#2. Look for the Jews {in Israel}, to start constructing, the "3rd {Jewish} Temple," on, or fairly near, to the present site of "Solomon's {destroyed} Temple"; In the reasonably near future; Even if it's 15-20 years from now!; Remember that 'God's timing, 'of-things-to-come,' does Not 'calibrate' with man's reckoning of time! 'Google'.. Rebuilding of the Temple, or, 'Third Temple.'
 
Not to 'pour salt' into your aggrieved wound, Re. "Palestine," 'Snoop'; But, it's safe-to-say, that the 'Middle East' situation, is 'panning out,' as God {as expressed in the Bible}, predicted; And if per chance, you think that would be 'terribly unfair' of God, to have that happen; As He already has, in part; I would First look to yourself 'Snoop'.. Re. by your own admission; That you might be "too little & stupid," to see how this all could fit into a Loving God's {my term}, 'Plan.!"
 
Ps. If God wants to 'Show Himself' to the world-at-large, through the re-creation and ultimate survival of Israel, {their, 'warts, and all'}; As He already, in part, Has; Who are we humans to say, 'That's Not Right,' or 'Fair, of God.'{!?}..{rhetorical}

Ahhhhhh,,, what we don't know eh??? Now, HoM, I don't mean you are ignorant in general,,, oh contraire, but you are ignorant of a lot of things Middle East, especially today's Israel and the Zionist movement.
 
 
 
Oh.... OH!! you mean the "Self-fullfilling" prophecy, where Jews from Europe (not the original Sephardic Jews of the ME that Luke speaks of) went to Palestine to retake the land that some OTHER Jews lost,, simply because those LUNATICS read the bible and saw Luke21:24, or whatever passages inspired them to do so.
 
So...?
 
ever hear of "True Torah Jews Against Zionism" ? True Tora Jews Homepage, mission statement
 
They read the bible and "interpret" it a slightly different way.
I don't believe in any prophecy of the bible concerning the re-emergence of Israel does God ever give a timeframe, or say how it happens or who does it. is that not correct?
 
Meanwhile the Zionists have taken it upon themselves to determine God's wishes!!! and you support them...? interesting!!! I thought you LOVED God!?! I thought you obeyed God's laws and did not want to do unchristian-like things to innocent people!?
 
In the process of retaking the land,,, the Zionists broke God's EXPLICIT laws, 1. thou shalt not kill, 2. thou shalt not steal. Do you see now why not ALL Jews are for the goals of the European Zionists? And do you see why good christians should not be as well???
The True Tora Jews actually repsect God's wishes.
 
 
 
Why should it be surprising, it's TRUE. I am talking about people that had title to their land and homes and were removed only because they were not Jewish. The Christians and Sephardic Jews could stay,, just the Muslims were removed. And "Ethnic Cleansing" by any other name is sitll ethnic cleansing. Ahhhh, that means it's a BAD thing, HoM, and not very christian-like at all. Yes, a grave sin against God. So is the Apartheid existence they have in the Levant now, too. very evil and very unchristian-like. "Jews over here, Muslims over there" - all at the point of a gun.
 
BTW, when ancient Israel existed, do you know that it was home to many other ethnic groups? Sephardic Jews never had the intent to throw people out of the land, just the modern European Jews - Jews by religion ONLY. they are about as related to the Jews of the midde east as the man in the moon. You do know that, right? and no.... they are NOT semites. the ME Jews are, but not the European Jews.
 
 
Ahhhhhh,,, so if we go bomb Syria now, we will be doing God's work!!!
Your thinking here does not surprise me in the least,HoM,,, surprise-surprise. you are about as "christian" as Atilla the Hun.
 
 
 
Ahhhhhhh, another self-fullfilling prophecy. I am __im-PRESSED__!
 
 
this has NOTHING to do with God, and everything to do with Christian/Judeo LUNATICS. Don't blame GOD for your fiasco.
 
 
 
All I can say is, if this REALLY IS God that is repsonsible - and not the $Billions in aid and guns we give to Isreali lunatics, then your God BLOWS..... in plain, simple Englilsh, and he can put me in Hell because I don't want to be where your God is or YOU.
 
In the meantime, I know that this is not God's actions at ALL, it is the actions of barbarous, murderous, greedy People that God prohibits and detests - as well as the people that support them with bombs and money, too. That would be YOU, HoM.
 
 
 
Then I assume when it all blows up in your face and Isreal is toppled, then that is God's Will, correct? No Problem-o! God to the rescue!
 
Israel is falling apart, HoM. it will never endure and you know it.
Enjoy it while you can. One bomb can ruin your whole day.
 
 
 

'Snoop,' Debating the Arab-Israeli situation, with someone who has a 180 degree opposite, point-of-view; and cannot differentiate, your claimed instances of 'Self-fulfilling-prophecy,' being, {to your mind}, the real explanation, behind my same brought forth, Scripture passages; That represent, 'Divine foreknowledge'.. as I 'see it.'
 
In so many words; what's the use of debating?!; Given that, among other things; we would each ascribe, {just like our counterparts, in any number of other places}, the overall unreasonableness, & 'blood-thirstyness' blame; Also, in diametrically opposed terms!?
 
In any event; Even the dispassionate observerver, would have to admit, the counter-intuitiveness, of how 6 million Israeli Jews, are able to, in effect... and, more so, than Not; 'Call-the-Shots,' as it were; Against circa, 800 million Muslims, {not all Arabs}, whom, in many cases, literally have a 'seething hatred' against the Israeli {Zionist} Jews!!?.. Israeli 'Nukes,' aside; Which, they haven't thus far, been forced to use, in their own defense!
 
In contradiction, 'Snoop'.. of your {hoped for} posted reference, to Israel, inevitably one day being 'toppled'; Here's another 'self-fulfilling'; I mean, Divinely-Inspired, prophetic writing; For you {& others}, to 'chew on'..{I could've also have added other passages; But if your that curious.. you'll need to 'google,' any number of, 'Israel in Bible Prophecy' Web links.
 
Remember, Not one, prophetic Bible passage, has been shown to be in error, Yet!
 
Zechariah 12:3
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; All that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces; Though all the people of the earth be gathered together, against it.
 
{'HoM,' Chalk up another counter-intuitive statement!; That is, until one realizes, that this above, 'OT' passage, is quoting God/'JC,' in the 'first person'!}.
 
Ps, to 'Snoop,'.. I suspect that you violated one of your Own set forth, {on this 'bb'}, parameters, Re. how God operates; Isn't it true, 'Snoop,' that probably 10 seconds, at most, didn't elapse; Before you decided to launch into your own pre-conceived understandings; Not all that different from 'IBIJ's mindset, Re. his Own separate set of, 'pet' belief understandings!, {Oh well, at least arguably, we All have them!}..
 
.. The point being 'Snoop,' I have good reason to believe; That your previously admitted, conceivably being, 'too little, and too stupid' to know these things; Re. how the God of the Bible, operates; Played a 'Zero, Zilch, 'Nada' role; Before you 'thought' to type, 'if that's how your God does things/operates, then "HE BLOWS"' {FYI., there's only One God!; And Not, 'My God, versus, Your God'; unless one is referring to the 'god-of-this-world,' {aka. Satan}; Which is a whole other matter!

 
it's your choice. it takes two to tango.
 
 
 
I see,, well you of course forget to say,, 6 million jews AND 300 million Americans plus Jews around the world plus other western nations also contributing HEAVILY to Israel to fight off, waht,, slingshots??? Face it, modern day Israel is a Western Culture experiment, NOT a creation of God, nor is GOd on their side,,, the US is.
 
And YES, the US has superior weapons fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq for the jews, and we have a lot of money to throw at corrupt countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt to keep them at peace with Israel- just to name a quick two, and call nations that will NOT conform to US /Israel land greed, "TERRORISTS" - like Iran and Syria, to name two.
 
and the war is not over yet. far from it. Israel will be toppled.
 
 
 
no,, what I did do was use some of your understandings of god and create "problems" that come out of it, for me, anyway.
 
also,, I most importantly said I would NOT conform to christians if this is what god really is. But I never TOLD you what I thought God was, only what I thought he was NOT. I have my own ideas but I never put them into any post in here. and won't.
 
 
 
that's right.
that does NOT tell you what I think of God, it only says what I think of your defintion of god. I really don't know what god is, but I REFUSE to believe God is what you say he is. does that mean in a sense I have "defined" god...? maybe in your mind, but certainly not in mine.
 
And if that is your idea of a "I-got-ya",, fine fine,,, you got me.
 
but you didn't and you are not even close.