I usually don't get into these political BB post, but I feel something must be pointed out. When you give billions of dollars in tax cuts to oil companies, after they have achieved record profits as a result of high gas prices, that's spreading the wealth too. A 750 billion dollar bail out for wall street, with the use of tax dollars, is not only spreading the wealth, but doing so through government welfare for the rich. Giving tax cuts to corporations who ship jobs overseas is spreading the wealth. If you don't like the Democrats, that's cool, but stop allowing Republicans to con you into thinking they are for you. The Republican party is a party for the rich. But there are not enough rich people to get them elected, so they try to con people into voting against their own financial interests with nonsense like calling someone a socialist, or a terrorist, or a celebrity, or whatever crap they think up tomorrow. By the way, the tax cuts for the rich that John McCain is arguing for, he was against before he decided to run for president. He changed his position to help himself win the Republican primary. And Sarah Palin is governor of a state that "spreads the wealth" to it's citizens generated from Alaskan oil profits. Something she bragged about just a few months ago, and even used the term "spreading the wealth.

Nevada, just so you will know before I retort here, I am Libertarian and do not like where EITHER party is taking this country, because when it comes to certain issues, they are all the same. They want $$$. Lots of it.
 
If Republicans (or dems) steal money in one lump sum (breaks to oil comapnies), that is one thing (and that DOES need to be addressed) but when tax POLICY of the US now starts to resemble the USSR, it is something to take note of because it is NOT a one time deal. It is forever.
 
Obama IS a socialist, has a long history of it.
 
America does not need more constriction, we need to get back to our freedoms and get back to thriving.
 
As far as the Rpeubs stealing money for their oil tycoons,, sure! that is THEIR rackets, has been for a long time. But what makes you think that the Dems don't have their rackets like Freddie Mac /Fannie Mae, ACORN, etc etc?
 
Before we as citizens try to determine who is MORE vile, what we should do is unify in getting rid of BOTH.
 
Neither party even THINKS in terms of:
- ending deficit spending
- paring down debt
- end porkbelly spending and earmarks
- fix social asecurity by actually PAYING IT BACK
 
Neither candidate will address these issues and many more. and if it is one thing that people in America should have learned as the government grew bigger and bigger is, YOU CANNOT TRUST THEM. None of them
 
the power has to be taken away, and the Tax $$'s returned to the people.
 
Republocrats are not going to do it, so who will?
 
 

 
Let me guess... um, the Republicans posing as Libertarians?

You of course assume that Clinton is my hero. You base this on what, your mind reading skills? As for the government welfare I spoke of, creating jobs is not what was happening on wall street. I am not against government funds to help the economy, but it must be targeted. You don't give tax cuts to companies who ship jobs overseas, you give them to companies that create jobs here. And you don't give tax cuts by the billions to oil companies who are making record-breaking profits. Both Obama and McCain voted for the 750 billion dollar bailout, and it is not my point to argue against it. Instead I'm trying to point out the foolishness of voting for such a bill, and then calling your opponent a socialist because he wants to give tax cuts to the middle class. In the interests of fairness, I should point out, Obama did vote for a bill that had tax cuts for oil companies, but the bill also contained funds/incentives, etc. for alternative fuel research and development. It was a compromise. But McCain wants to give them larger tax cuts with no benefits to anyone but the oil companies.

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The business man you speak of can do what he wishes with his company, he just shouldn't expect additional tax cuts. If a business is innovative, and can thrive while doing business in the United States, and therefore create jobs, that company should get tax cuts, because they are contributing to the job market, which helps the economy grow. If a business cannot excel in this country, why should it get additional tax cuts? No one is saying close their doors. No one is saying shut them down and lock them in jail. But they should not expect tax breaks for creating jobs in another country, and helping that economy grow. You don't have to be Democrat or Republican to see that, it's just common sense.

 
I am one of the few that I know in my circle of Libertarian friends that is a former democrat. It is true that the libertarians tend more to be disgruntled Republicans than Democrats.
 
but it is NOT the party, I swear, that I reject. If a democrat or republican carried the same message as the libertarians - like Republican Ron Paul - aka, Doctor NO, then I totally support that man.
 
But I bet the republicans do not support him LOL! he's trying to ruin their party! and the dem's, too!
 
Pazuau,, in general,, the libertarians are so far from the thinking of the republocrats it isn't even funny.
 
And I toss it all up to a form of govenrment whose politicans are SOooo easily corrupted it isn't even funny. What POWER these people have!
 
and all a lobby group/ special interest group has to do is get to politicians with bribes, whatever, and BINGO - another chunk of america is sold off to the highest bidder.
 
Please, Pazuz, you are not telling me that these people in power (Republocrats) don't know that America is about to crash in heavy debt,,, they know, they just have other agenda items that are more important to them than stupid America.
 
 

I'm rushing a bit, because I'm going out of town again this weekend, and I have a million things to do. RAPTOR, without realizing it, I think you have proven my point. John McCain wants to continue the Bush tax cuts, which is based on income. If a person owns a company, he or she earns a certain amount of income, which they must pay taxes on. If you give everyone over a certain income a tax cut, there is no way of targeting it. One guy earns 10 million dollars selling pillows, another earns 10 millon making hybrid cars, another makes 10 million playing baseball. They all get a tax cut, because the tax cut isn't targeted. If you instead give a tax credit for certain companies, only two of the three people I just mentioned would qualify, but only if they add to the American job market. If your hybrid car factory operates in another country, you don't get an additional tax cut. And if your pillow making factory operates out of another country, you don't get an additional tax cut. You only get an additional tax cut if you are creating jobs in this country. The key is this, you give tax credits to certain companies, not a tax cut for all incomes over a certain amount.
 
And one other thing regarding my point about how the Republican party trys to con people into voting for them. The now famous Joe the Plumber, who McCain and Palin have grown so found of mentioning over and over again. When he asked Obama a question about taxes, he claimed he was about to purchase a company worth $250,000. He said to Obama that his plan would raise his taxes. As we later found out, Joe the Plumber was lying. He didn't have the money to buy such a company. Which means he makes less than $250,000 a year, and would get a tax cut under Obama's plan. But he is still pushing McCain like a snake oil salesman every chance he gets. He's trying to get someone elected who will not give him a tax cut, and trying to defeat someone who will give him a tax cut. And all based on some nonsense about Obama being a socialist, or terrorist, or whatever. And one other point, Obama was born in the United States. John Mccain was born in Panama, because his father was stationed there while in the Navy.

 
It is my opinion that "Joe" is just a creation of the Repub strategists, much like the B-girl was.
 

You are listening to right-wing foolishness. This has all be checked out. This is old news. The man was born in America. As for who targets the tax cuts, it is clear you know very little about the tax code, and how it operates. My sister gets a tax credit because she has a son. Who do you think checkes that? What do you think the IRS does all day, play speed chess on Caissa?

So this is it from me until Monday. RAPTOR, that gives you the whole weekend to come up with a better argument. And SnoopDog, that gives me a whole weekend to figure out how to convince you that not everyone in both major parties is the devil LOL.
until Monday friends, Nevada

Mcdoofuses argument that Obama is a socialist who wants to redistribute earnings from hard working americans to moochers is very reminiscent of how Nixon used Agnew 35ish years ago to argue against "pointy headed intellectuals"
 
Mccain's campaign is based on dishonesty and an attempt to scare people into voting for him.He is a morally bankrupt corrupt man who has dishonored himself.If this country elects a republican to continue the policies of George Bush than we most certainly deserve the pain and suffering we will get.Mccain's only hope is that stupid people ignorant of what is happening elect him because they are afraid of a black muslim socialist.If this country is so damned stupid to believe this cow crap we deserve to become a third world nation.The people who started this nation must be turning in their graves with what has happened to this nation.A nation of learned educated voters deciding their fate has become a nation of stupid ignorant people voting out of fear.

 
Enjoy the weekend!
 
I'll send my "love" to you in our games

 
 
JESUS CHRIST MAN!!
 
I certainly hope you are wrong.
 
D

 
I just saw yesterday on the Drudge page, an exclusive report from "Israel Insider",,,, the claim that a recently recorded earth tremor in Iran was not an earhtquake as originally reported, but rather, Iran testing it's first nuke bomb!!!
 
those lying sac's of excrement! I'll see if I can find the link......
 
..... Ahh! lucky me. "Arutz Sheva" Y'all!! HeeeeHAaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
 
Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
 
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.
 
The report is an Israel Insider exclusive. etc etc....
Israel Insider Link
 
those shameless schills!!! the reason why it is an "EXCLUSIVE" story by "Israel Insider" is because it is a total crock of shiite designed to scare the behoovies out of us and influence us to vote McCAin.
 
We know that the B-girl was a phony, that is supposed to make you scared of big black african-americans that will take over america soon, too.
 
I've seen ENOUGH!
 

 

The "Communist" v. "The Mad Bombadeer"
 
what a choice!!!