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Topic started by ZENknight on 25 Oct 2008, 03:26:22
ZENknight
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25 Oct 2008, 03:26:22
 
Our Imperiled American Republic form of Democracy {worldnews.net}
Exclusive: Hal Lindsey shames Obama camp over vote fraud, campaign spending
 
Posted: October 24, 2008 {by- Hal Lindsey}
 
 
It grows increasingly likely that Election 2008 will make us long for the good old days when elections were fair and civilized processes – like Election 2000. If the current election continues in the direction it seems headed toward, America's electoral process may be broken beyond repair.
 
There are allegations of voter fraud nationwide – at least 11 states are officially under federal investigation. In Ohio, more than 600,000 have already voted – at least a third of those votes are allegedly under a cloud of suspicion.
 
The community activist organization ACORN is at the heart of the investigation, at least for the time being. ACORN connects directly to Barack Obama, who used to claim as executive experience his time as a community organizer. {He doesn't talk about it on the campaign trail much now, since that experience was training ACORN leaders}
 
ACORN is a wholly Democratic political partisan organization directly subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer to "get out the vote" for Barack Obama. Yet, other than the partisan right, nobody seems particularly concerned.
 
The election is beginning to take on the odor of some third-world dictatorship. Thugs roam the streets of America, intimidating voters from even venturing out, in some places.
 
Those parts of the election that can't be stolen are evidently for sale. Early in the campaign, both McCain and Obama pledged themselves to a "different kind of campaign" in which both would agree to public campaign financing to keep the playing field level.
 
John McCain kept his word and accepted public money. Barack Obama broke his word and refused public financing.
 
Public campaign financing was created to limit the influence of money in presidential politics. McCain must husband what public financing he has remaining, whereas Barack Obama somehow raised an astonishing $125 million in September.
 
Obama is therefore currently spending $250,000 per day on TV ads in the battleground state of Virginia. McCain, boxed in by public financing restraints, can only afford to spend $30,000 per day. {It doesn't matter which ticket you support. This is electoral fairness?}
 
Obama's campaign contributions are also under a cloud of suspicion. There are a number of big donations that have been illegally donated from abroad, including $30,000 from two Palestinians living in Gaza. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of small donors – $200 or less – that the campaign refuses to disclose.
 
There are legitimate questions regarding some of that donor money coming illegally from non-U.S. citizens, or from donors who have already exceeded campaign donation limits. But except for a few right-leaning news organizations, nobody in America seems to much care.
 
Historians trace the fall of the Roman Empire to the phenomenon dubbed "bread and circuses." As Rome's power began to wane, the government kept the people in line by bribing them with "entitlements" {hence the nickname, bread and circuses}.
 
Once the people realized they could vote themselves a portion of the public treasury, Rome's eventual collapse was assured. Every year, satisfying the voters got more expensive, while Rome's treasury continued to dwindle.
 
Nobody seems concerned about the bread and circuses being offered the voters this year. One of those bribes purports to give a tax "cut" to the 40 percent of working Americans already exempt from federal taxes by increasing the taxes on the top 5 percent. Some on the right call it "socialism," and even a few independents are a bit unnerved by this overt confiscation and redistribution of wealth. For the most part, however, the voters seem OK with it – particularly those in line for an unexpected check from the IRS.
 
So, let's summarize the high points of Election '08. ACORN has fouled America's electoral system so completely that, in a close election, Americans can never be sure who really won. Thugs roam the streets seeking to intimidate voters. Obama broke his word and is now able to outspend John McCain 10 to 1 for the rest of the campaign season.
 
It isn't about Republican vs. Democrat – it would be just as imperiling to American democracy no matter which party wins using these kinds of tactics. In the end, the winner will be the one who offers the voter the most attractive bribe – unless the election is close; then it will be the candidate who can afford the best legal team.
 
By Election 2012, the winner may be the candidate with the strongest army and the biggest guns. Why not?
 
SnoopDog176
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25 Oct 2008, 15:55:29
 
Re: Our Imperiled American Republic form of Democracy {worldnews.net}
ACORN is a wholly Democratic political partisan organization directly subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer to "get out the vote" for Barack Obama.
 
and of course, since all pols (virtually) are Repub or Dem,, what a complete shock it is to learn that they buddy-up and decide to take OUR $$, public funds,,,, and give it away to THEIR friends.
 
and who is to STOP them!!! (who regulates the regulators?)
 
ppl have to understand that the republican party and the democrat party (and all such parties) are PRIVATE entities,, not a damm ARM of the American government. Ya know....? Like the Moose Lodge, for gawd's sake. that's all they are, in the eye of "government". Ppl see that ACORN is a totally and wholly owned subsidy of the "DEMOCRATS" - and right away they think to thmesleves, "Well, that is Ok, they are a government agency".
 
NOOOOOoooooooo,,, NO, I tell you! They are a self-defined criminal organization that operates in perpetuity - all with OUR money, not their own. The money is just lying there and they just TAKE it. that simple. After all , who is going to stop them?
 
Now read the constitution and try to find where any of this is LEGAL.
 
To try to illustrate this concept and that which is ENTIRELY wrong with the Dems (or rpeubs) giving away PUBLIC funds to PRIVATE clubs (parties, same thing),,,
 
Suppose a goodly amount of elected politicians suddenly were registered as members of the Masons,, or Skull and CrossBones, or Crypts or Bloods,, would you THEN like to see YOUR money taken by these THIEVES and handed out to their fellow comrades in those organizations, or to the shady "enterprises" that their comrade members operate?
 
this is such BULLSHIFT. it just makes my blood boil all that much more.
 
US Government is a... F A R C E ,,, PERIOD. It has been turned into that by the private THIEVE parties known as Democrat and Republican.
 
 
enough of this CRAP. when the he11 does the revolution start?
 
we need GUNS, not GOVERNMENT
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"By Election 2012, the winner may be the candidate with the strongest army and the biggest guns. Why not?"
 
 
great point.
 
Nobody in power pays attention to laws OR common decency, so that surely is a natural progression. Lawless society. No repsect fot Law, don't need it,, be gone with it. Let the Big Gun win.
 
hey,,, maybe THAT's why the DemoCrypts are trying to take everyones gun away from them
 
"Constituiton...? We don't NEED no constituion"!!!
 
 
 
 
 
Edited on 25 Oct 2008 at 16:02:28
DOORMAN
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25 Oct 2008, 16:13:35
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Re: Our Imperiled American Republic form of Democracy {worldnews.net}
Wait a min

First off Hal Lindsy is the biggest wacko fundy on Tv. Nothing he says can be taken seriuosly. This article is only intended to rile conservatives up. Which it did to you. Hal preachs end of the world stuff all Gods Plan everything is playing out according to gods plan. All is as it should be. If this is the case then why is he bitching .

|Ok so if we need guns and say we got the whole state of ... lets say Montana armed and ready to go .Go where? who do you want to shoot?? What we need is a group to focus on .Someone to blame that we could all rally against. Maybe ileagal aliens. Naa we need them to clean our house's and pick fruit. Blacks? Jews?? Naa been there done
that.
Wait ! I know CHRISTAINS!! Feed THE CHRISTIANS TO THE LIONS!!!
 
 
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SnoopDog176
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25 Oct 2008, 19:23:12
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Re: Our Imperiled American Republic form of Democracy {worldnews.net}
DOORMAN said:
First off Hal Lindsy is the biggest wacko fundy on Tv. Nothing he says can be taken seriuosly. This article is only intended to rile conservatives up. Which it did to you. Hal preachs end of the world stuff all Gods Plan everything is playing out according to gods plan. All is as it should be. If this is the case then why is he bitching .
 
 
well,,, I don't know the guy - even by name.
 
all I know is,, even if Adolph Hitler told me 2 + 2 = 4,,, I would not disagree with him.
 
I know ACORN exists, we all do. We all know it is connected to Obama, that it is centered in DEMOCRAT CITY, Chicago - where all the criminals known to voter fraud exist CONTINUALLY, and the whole organization is now under an investigation for voter fraud all over the united states by the FBI.
 
If these items that I treat as "facts" are not facts, DOORMAN, please tell me. I am only looking for the truth here. And BTW, the fact that ACORN is under investigation is news everywhere - not just from this guy, so judge the content - not the author. That's all I'm saying. The only thing that I gleaned here that I did not already see in print is that ACORN is really a democratic criminal organization and funded by the feds.
 
BUT,,, I should have summized that from all the other evidences.
 
 
DOORMAN said:
Ok so if we need guns and say we got the whole state of ... lets say Montana armed and ready to go .Go where?
 
Washington, where the heck do you think?
 
you wanna' have a revolution against sausalito?
 
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25 Oct 2008, 19:40:29
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Re: Our Imperiled American Republic form of Democracy {worldnews.net}
SnoopDog176 said:
you wanna' have a revolution against sausalito?
  I like Sausalito.
 
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