if he is not a natural born citizen, then that would make him ineligable for the Presidency as the Constitution requires that a president be a natural born citizen.
 
Please see link below --- It looks like the Obama camp is trying to hide this potentially devastating fact and could cause a Constitutional crisis if it is not addressed immediately.
 
There is currently a federal lawsuit filed to determine BHO's true citizenship. Oddly enough it was filed by a life long Democrat who seems to be more interested in enforcing the Constitution rather than towing the party line
 
http://www.restoretherepublic.com/elections/obama-dnc-admit-all-allegations-in-berg-v-obama
 

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

Now if we could only find proof that McSame is a natural born citizen...
 
pazuzu

I have a bridge for sale, you interested? You could make some sweet cash!

it's all true -- We have got to do something to stop this liberal socialist maniac --- before its too late --- this country cannot withstand yet another incompetent President

 
I WISH it was incompetence,,, it is deliberate malfeasance, at best.
 
these people in high power have very powerful people behind them telling them what to do, and they are very, very calculating.
 
everything that LOOKS like waste (ie, earmarks) is not oversite,, ,it is a perk that very eager people have inplanted into the budget and they are awiting like impatient chicks to get the free meal from mother birdie. it's all in the plans.
 
it will never change because it has gone unchallenged and has been widely successful and made $$billionaires out of many many scurulous people on BOTH sides of the poltical spectrum (spectrum in USA ,, 2 parties)
 

You are delusional. The man has run an incredibly organized 50 state campaign, debated countless opponents countless times, been subjected to more microphones/cameras and media outlets then anyone before. And he's only mispoken maybe a handful of times and been able to raise more money than anyone else in political history.
 
How exactly is that incompetence?
 
I remember telling Cannabis in 1999 that GWB would be the worst president ever and his policies would drive America more socialistic. Of course, that was bluster and anger from having my horse lose. I actually believed GWB would lower gov't spending, cut the role of gov't in people's lives and drive a wedge between the haves and have nots.
 
He drove his wedge by INCREASING gov't spending, destroying civil liberties and now at the end of his term is nationalizing the banks and leading the socialist charge! I didn't see that coming, did you? Did you vote for George Lenin Bush twice? I'm thinking you did. If he would have campaigned as a Bank Nationalizing Marxist Commie, I'd a voted for him!
 
Either way, you can thank him for President Barack H. Obama. And since your beloved party is divided between the small gov't libertarians, like Chris Buckley and Andrew Sullivan, and the religious wing nuts, like Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee, with no leadership or reconciliation in sight, you're probably going to get two terms of him.
 
Payback is a b!tch.
 
--SoCo

Snoop, I would agree that corruption is widespread, but sometimes you sound like the people that wear aluminum foil hats.

Apparently I should be buying stock in Reynolds wrap. The paranoia level seems to be rising at Caissa.
 
Obama never said he was proud to be born in Africa, and those "adoptive" parents were his real grandparents. His 86 year old grandmother, who basically raised him, broke her hip and you find a birth certificate forging fraud in it.
 
Why is it so difficult to accept him as an American? Do you remember Jackie Robinson? Do you remember him fighting against the same retoric? The idea that someone like him shouldn't be playing baseball in white America?
 
If you think he's an empty suit, fine. If you hate tax cuts for middle class workers, great. If you just can't stand a guy who thinks before he speaks and pronounces words correctly, so be it. But for milk's sake, at least acknowledge the truth that he's an American.
 
Take a minute and listen to yourself and look in the mirror. You sound EXACTLY like the whiny liberals who lost in 2000. Is that what you really want?
 
--SoCo

 
I hear ya, because my charges are certainly "outrageous". And I admit, that.
 
the problem is.... they are also TRUE
 
do you realize that
-We the people pay $250+ Billion - just in interest on our loans every year?
- we are in $11 Trillion in debt and that is about $150,00 per family of four?
- Our social security savings has been STOLEN...?
 
and as these fools blow the future of this country into economic ruin,, exactly WHAT do we get back from this outrageous spending spree???
 
the people running our country are without doubt, ANTI-American, thieveing bastids. Not only are they not worried in the least about americans, they are not even worried about AMERICA, too
 
this country is headed for a HUGE crash, the likes of which has never been seen and will make this past stock market crash look tame. I mean REAL crash with this country going broke and not being able to pay back the debts. Anyone can see that. do the math.
 
what do we get for a presidential candidate promising CHANGE....?
a guy that wants to raise taxes!
 
Ok...? no tin-foil hats there.
 
nobody, and I mean NOBODY in the BIG TWO have these terrible problems even on their radar scopes. that is because THOSE problems makes them use RESTRAINT. Forget it!
 
instead, whoever gets in, will undoubtedly spend more each year than they take in (deficit spending), borrow more money , raise taxes, spend even MORE money, and continue right on the same path of self destruction they have been for many years.
 
it is like watching, in slo-mo, some FOOL with a pocket full of credit cards live the life of luxury, and his total debt is $150K and he is running out of PLASTIC.
 
what can I say, man
 
I wish it was not true, but you don't REALLY need me to tell you that it is, do you?
 
 

 
For how many years have they raised taxes in your opinion? I thought for instance that RR did cut the taxes quite a lot (at least for the rich).
 
And also I wonder: When were the Glory Days, when SnoopDog176 didn't complain about USA?

debated? What the hell has he debated??? he has been served softball questions by the liberal media who se him as the darling of the left wing agenda?? Yes I voted for GWB twice. I truly believed in him. I am truly disappointed in him ---it is truly ironic that a neo-con has been responsible for bringing us closer to socialism and nationalism than any other left wing socialist ever hoped to accomplish -- bringing in BHO is like bringing in a closing pitcher to finish off where GWB ended.
 
I have been listening to Barrack Obama for months he says he wont tax anyone who makes less than 250K a year is that net or gross? --- is that private businesses or personal income or both? he says he is going to pay for p[eople to go to college -- do you nkow what that really means ?? it means WE are going po pay for other people to go to college --- i was barely able to put myself through grad school --- noe I have to pay for somweone else to go ??? What the hell is that all about? How does this POS have the right to tell me what to do with my money F him!!! He says he is going to give everyone national healthcare ??? More government intrusion in our lives and noe they are oin control of our health??? Look what they did to our finances --- now all of us will be burdened with higher taxes to ppay for "sick" people who just want to sit around on their asses and smoke cigarettes and eat pork grinds all day watching Jerry Springer F them to!!!!!!!!!!
 
Its absolute bullsh*t !!! I am not delusional ---- YOu and your left wing ilk are delusional -- -the terrifying part is that i thought it could nt get any worse than GWB --- I was wrong here comes BHO to finally drive this country right into the ground.
 
This maniac needs ot be stopped --- thats the bottom line ---

Winston Churchill, got it right, when he once said.."There is nothing to fear, but fear itself." Ross Perot, {or was it the late Gov. George Wallace?}, was modestly exaggerating {'imho'}, when he referred to the 'Dems' & 'Repubs,' as.. "tweedledee & tweedledum."
 
The humongous, federal financial, 'Grand Canyon' deficit-Nat'l debt legacy, {and growing ever bigger}, will more likely than not, constrain the new federal program initiatives, Regardless, of Who Wins!
 
What we {Americans} likely will end up with, is the usual 'Hobson's choice' of inflated funding, {above & beyond, what's necessary} for the military, if 'McSame' wins; or putting those 'saved' military expenditure $$$$$, into 'half-assed' thought out, civilian-sector programs; both old, & 'new.'
 
For those who think that the 'McSame-Palin' ticket is much to be preferred; anyone who thinks that continuing to 'draw' a 'US' 'line-in-the-sand' in Iraq, {halfway-round-the-world}, makes sense; at $8 billion, per month; and given the 'weird,' "Shiite," Iraqi Muslim, cultural & religious practices; in lieu of those saved Billion$ going to pay off our national debt, {which isn't That likely to happen; even if 'McSame' wins}; arguably, spending that $8 billion per month, on domestic programs.. even if they're 'dumb'; keeps the money circulating in Our Own country! {which goes a long way in explaining, why I'm Not voting!}..

 

Dude

Do you seriuosly believe what you just posted. Your crying about something that has'nt happened yet,when your boy has put us in the worst mess ever. You said "Maniac" maybe you should exchange that word for nigger. Is'nt that what this is really about.
 
D

cool avatar, windmill, the colors - along with your national flag colors, match. looks nice.
 
anyway
 
Look at the BIG picture. Way back when the income tax started, they taxed only those making $1,000 or more - at a time when the average annual income was $250, or 1/4th the taxable amount. So basically everybody, EPSECIALLY THE POOR PEOPLE, did not pay taxes.
 
to "recreate" that scenerio today, that would mean that people that earned 4x($30,000) = $120K or less would NOT be taxed.
 
you must be kidding! Today, if a homeless man earns $100 a week, they are taxing him,,,? and WHY??? simply because they CAN! they don't NEED the money, they only WANT the money. they are extremely greedy people.
 
Yet the liberals,, the very people mostly in love with tax increases - like obama, claim to be a "friend of the poor". Yeeah!! they stab the poor in the back worse than anyone.
 
Yes, Reagan did do something to fight "bracket creep" which is what caused the distortion, but let's face it,, not nearly enough.
 
and that same homeless man, BTW, is also being forced to pay into a bogus, ready-to-burn retirement fund. Oh yeah, that is worrying about the "poor and the elderly", all right - and I blame the democrats mostly for that,,, they preach to us all the time about how mean spirtited rich republicans are, but they were the ones that stole all the money out of the reirement "trust" fund in the FIRST place.
 
if poor and elderly think they have a friend in the democrat party, they are surely mistaken. the republicans have done more to help the poor and the elderly than the back-stabbing democrats ever thought of doing. the "poor end elderly" is just a scam way to steal money, and they know it.
 
 
 
When I was too young and naive to know better
 
certianly 1920's, 30's,,,, but not much further than that. There was no CIA back then, either. that certainly spelled eternal doom to america.
 
 
 

 
I know that was for MATE, D, but I take offense to that.
I was against liberals LONG before Obama.
and now that he is here, you imply that being against Obama = racism.
 
sorry dude, I hate his politics, not his skin color and I am sure because of the stance that MATE takes, he too is aganist obama policies.
can't we just get out of that claptrap "color" balogna?

 
right, because MOST people have a death FEAR of voting outside the realm of popular opinion. they don't care WHO it is as long as he is the annointed one by the party big whigs. they just refuse to think for themselvs.
 
If the dems put up Carl Marx, we'd be pinko november 4. and damm proud of it! GO PARTY!!!
 
 
 
 
Ain't a democrat I know that will ever admit that democrats started the KKK. and all those dirt poor trailor-park living, pickup truck on blocks in the front yard KKKers of today ,, I am sure, STILL do not identify with the repubs.
 
Denial is not a river in egypt, dems. get used to it.
 

While the KKK was not a political party its members were mostly democrats. But what everyone fails to mention is that the democratic party of 'yester-year' is the republican party of today, thanks mostly to Strom Thurman and his Dixiecrats.
 
pazuzu

You were the one suggesting the KKK was started by democrats, where does that put you then? 1865? 1915? Or are you suggesting the the KKK was started in 2008?
 
pazuzu

 
this would not only be mostly wishful thinking, it is plain wrong.
 
pre civil war, you had the democrats and whigs. the whigs - soon to be displaced by the republicans, were mildly on the side of abolition. the democrats were midly for slavery.
 
soon, whig party members that wanted the party to do more for abolition broke away and formed the republican party. their first elected president was abraham lincoln, which spelled the end to slavery. there were no more whigs after that.
 
meanwhile democrats who wanted their party to do more to sustain slavery broke away and formed the KKK party. It failed as a party and eventually, only the lowest of common denominators remained, which we still have today.
 
Strom thermond and his dixocrats...? really,,,
 
 
It sounds to me like Thurmond was a Democrat when he was a segregationist and became a Republican to clean up his image later on, and to remain viable in politics. sorry,, pure republican he is NOT. I would call him a democrat first, and a reformer later on.
 
the last notable dixicrat I can recall that carried a lot of states in a presidential election was George Wallace, Governor of Alabama. Wallace was a democrat and he gained his fame by joining pro-segregationist protesters that blocked the access to schools carrying black students to white schools in birmingham.
 
 
George Wallaces 1968 election results: 46 electoral votes captured, 5 states carried, over 9 million people, 13.5 % the popular vote.
 
 
You may remember another famous democrat governor, governor Lester Maddux of Georgia who ran on the fame he recieved by standing in front of his resturant with his sons, wielding baseball bats to ward of african american patrons.
 
 
There were several of these "confrontations" and Maddox was widley popular with folks that disagreed with the Civil Rights movement to the point where he was elected Governor.
 
On to Mississippi!!
 
And who WERE those Mississippi Governors that ran the State Sovereignty Commission, aka, state segregation commision?
 
Wikipedia, list of Governors of Mississippi
51 James P. Coleman January 17, 1956 January 19, 1960 Democratic
52 Ross R. Barnett January 19, 1960 January 21, 1964 Democratic
53 Paul B. Johnson, Jr. January 21, 1964 January 16, 1968 Democratic
54 John Bell Williams January 16, 1968 January 18, 1972 Democratic
55 William Waller January 18, 1972 January 20, 1976 Democratic
56 Cliff Finch January 20, 1976 January 22, 1980 Democratic
 
you may be interested to know that there were four southern governors total, such as Thomas Bell Timmerman Jr of south carolina, that joined this alliance with Missisippi.
 
Yes,,, Timmerman was, you guessed it,, a Democrat.
 
Sorry, Pazuzu, there is nothing to even remotely support anything other than the democrats were (and still are) the most viscious, ardent separationists in american history. No way around it.
 
The crying out that you hear today by leading democrats and the name calling they give to republicans is nothing more than deflecting shame off of themselves for the evil doings of some of "their own".
 
Pazuzu,,, I recall Governor Wallace and Governor Maddux vividly. that is why it does not take much to get me going on these issues.
 
I was never concerned that they were democrats, after all, my parents both were, and virtually every adult I knew was, too.
 
but it just tears me up to have to listen to the same old democrat propganda, over and over again. By FAR,, the democrats have more vicious racists amongst them then republicans - not that republicans are perfect, but my god, man.
 
And one last word, a more mordern fellow democrat politician:
 
Exalted Cyclops, Indeed!!!