Hi SC
 
Matthew 5:11-12
11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
 
2 Timothy 3:12-13
12In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
 
Cheers
IBIJ

I wish i had a book to quote that would exscuse me from saying rude outrageous things and being a D!ck. As it is i don't so i apoligize.
 
 
D

 I'm with Doorman and I apologize for all my insults and for falsely saying all kinds of evil against you. I'm also sorry that I never got around to persecuting you.

.. I don't doubt that the 'long-gone' {elsewhere} Rev. Jim {Crazy} Jones, Also would've likely quoted, that famous believer- persecution/'blessed,' passage of Scripture; among other dysfunctional, to Highly dysfunctional persons, identifying themselves with that passage.
 
.. On the other, {and much more innocent} hand; as a child and teenager, I used to identify with, or cheer on, the "Green Bay Packers" of old, under their legendary coach, Vince Lombardi; you don't suppose that just because I considered myself, 'one-with-them,' that that had any bearing on me being allowed into their 'pre' and post-game locker room's 'inner-circle'!?
{rhetorical}
 
Without saying whether it 'IS,' or is not the case, {since only God/JC can judge the 'heart-of-man'}, regarding any particular person; that there are people who most assuredly would tell you, that they are doing the 'works' of 'JC,' Or, are Even being persecuted in His name, does Not necessarily make it so. ..'D-U-H'
 
.. In any event; for one to give most appearences of having an obsessive-compulsive disorder, Re. putting forth their own adopted 'spin' on the Bible; and showing minimal-to-zero tolerance for those with divergent views, vis-a-vis, their own {adopted} beliefs; is off to a shakey start {'imho'} for being considered "the Real Mckoy."!
 
Ps., As most of us know, on another level; you have your "Real gold"; and then there's your "Fool's Gold"... which mainly certified gemologists,{sp?} could discern the difference between.{!}

Is there no one who will defend this man?
 
 
D

Same thing they said to Noah before their first and last swimming lessons.
 
Cheers
IBIJ

Does it really matter who wins?
 
In case anyone missed Obama's "acceptance" speech, and Hilary's steeping-down speech, you would note a big, blazing banner right in the very front of the pulpit that read "AIPAC", and on the wall behind the speakers, was a mosaic of "AIPAC" printed randomly on that wall.
 
let's put it this way, the Israeli lobby has owned the repubs and now they are demonstrating that no matter who wins, dem or repub, our foriegn policy will be forever determined by Israel.
 
isn't it funny... prior to the US's illegal invasion of Iraq, when France, Russia, and Germany were all vehemently advising the Bush admin that Iraq had no WoMD - partiuclary nuclear weapons, that Israel sat there like the cheshire cat and said NOTHING.
 
doesn't Israel have the very best INTEL in the world (Mossad)? Yet there they sat in stony silence not offering an opinion - one way or the other.
 
interesting.
 
"same old, same old", no matter who wins (except Ron Paul who Zionists hate, but he can't win)

.. I'm sure this will strike more than a few, as an 'off-the-wall,'-'way-out' comment; but, 'imho,' {in reply, to 'Snoopy'}; to some degree, Re. modern-day Internat'l politics {probably, even 'domestic' too}; we're acting-out a pre-arranged script, {if you will}; where nothing happens, without God permitting it to happen; with the added factor of the 'lower' spiritual-forces, {Satanic, in origin}, Also, having a 'behind-the-scenes' virtual puppiteer, essentially string-pulling role!
 
.. For example, the Bible standard, in both 'Testaments,' is that God works through man, or men {women too!}, to accomplish His over-reaching goals. For example, 'imho,' 'The Powers that Be' {for those who weary of hearing the word, "God," all the time}, will Not permit certain things to happen, if it's Not in His plans!
 
.. The first thing that comes to my mind regarding that, would be a successful Iranian nuclear attack on Israel, or any other country; if it isn't supposed to happen, {so-to-speak} it Won't!
..And whether 'The {primary} Force' behind-the-scenes, works through man {the preferred method}, or the miraculous disabling of a nuclear missile, let's say, in-flight; either way, whether Any number of things take place, or Not; is, in more ways than one..{including, if necessary, "AIPAC," and it's degree of influence}, is Beyond our collective control! -- Too much "Science Fiction," you say?! .. Did the "Walls of Jericho," long ago, once come 'tumbling down,' via, a bunch of trumpets playing?! {rhetorical}.. and, in conjunction with that; did anyone {but God} know, way back when... regarding how "sound," by itself, if sufficiently loud, Can be an instrument of destruction?! {fini}