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Topic started by IBelieveInJesus on 3 Apr 2008, 22:01:17
IBelieveInJesus
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3 Apr 2008, 22:01:17
 
Of archangels and serpents and things
Consider this definition for Lucifer from Webster.
 
the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, the Devil
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lucifer
 
According to that definition, if Jesus were not an archangel wouldn't that logically put Lucifer as being superior to Jesus? Since Lucifer was, is, and ever more shall be the leader of the fallen angels (aka demons).
 
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SouthernComfort
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4 Apr 2008, 15:20:02
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Re: Of archangels and serpents and things
What is more important, angels or humans?
 
I think you can find in the scripture that of all god's creations, humans are numero uno. Therefore any human is superior to the greatest angel.
 
Also, I didn't think you bought into this fallen angel crap? It isn't in the bible. The book of john wasn't written by john milton ya know. Most of the angel/devil ideas come from the zoastrian religion, more of an eastern philosophy of ying/yang, good and evil in constant flux. This philosophy distinctly lacks the "good always triumpths over evil" western ideaology.
 
 
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IBelieveInJesus
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4 Apr 2008, 16:27:36
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Re: Of archangels and serpents and things
Hi SC
 
Man verse angels
6But there is a place where someone has testified:
"What is man that you are mindful of him,
the son of man that you care for him?
7You made him a little[a] lower than the angels;
you crowned him with glory and honor
8 and put everything under his feet."
Hebrews 2:6-8
 
When the Son of God became a man
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.
 
Lucifer being cast from Heaven
Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
 
Do you really want to challenge me on 1/3 of the angels being cast out of Heaven with Lucifer and into the abyss which is the earth?
 
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IBIJ