If I played a homo in a gay theme movie I think I would kill myself also

It's people like you, who will ensure that hollywood continues to turn out shallow, lightweight films . Brokeback mountain is a great film . At first glance, a film about two gay cowboys would not appeal to most people, myself included. However, this is one of those non hollywood films, superbly acted and directed, that brings you into its story...to a place where you don't really want to go, but you end up caring for these characters, and the fact that they are of the same sex , even though it is a theme of the movie, is not important. Hollywood has the talent to make movies like this, but they won't, because the bean counters know, that bigots and christian fundies will get their knickers in a twist over stuff like this. Ledger was very proud of his performance, because admitably it was a challenging role for his ability as an actor. His death, at this stage, looks like an accidental overdose of medicinal drugs.

..Yes, there is much to be learned of what goes on 'under rocks'.
Although consensual homosexuality is less perverted than let's
say 'child rape' or merely rape sub-plots, {of which there have
been a few; "Heaven's Gate," comes to mind, Re. the simulated
rape of a minor}.. everyone who thinks that "Brokeback Mountain"
is a wholely legitimate form of 'artistic expression,' might find them-
selves in similar arguments..{only perhaps, on the other 'side-of-
the-fence'}, for those Even More morally-desensitized advocates,
who think that simulating/acting-out on video..'snuff-films'{with un-
doubtedly sadistic-sexual 'undertones'} is Also a legitimate form of
artistic expression{!?}.
 
..The point is, when it comes to 'fallen' mankind's opinion of what
{if anything} constitutes 'moral depravity,' it's a long slippery slope
'downhill'; which almost invaribly starts out with some people
praising the plot-outline, 'superb acting'.. and what have you, of
films such as "Brokeback Mountain."
 
..And for the record, I'm against Most forms of censorship. Having
to watch the majority of what has been coming out of Hollywood
{movies} these days is a sufficient cause-and-effect punishment in
itself{!}
.. as in the Scripture admonition: "As a man thinks, so is he."

I would rather watch grass grow, than watch two men kissing, however I don't see gay and lesbians as being on a slippery slope of moral degeneration. They are the moral equal of all of us. As for artistic expression in films...I love going to see films with a bit of artistic expression in them. It is why , people like me go to the movies...to see stories about other people's lives, and what makes them the way they are. To push boundaries, just like the American pioneers who set off from the East coast and did not stop until they got to the west coast.Exploration is what keeps us going.

..I can 'see' {Grevilea} why you'd think that there's No 'downhill
moral-slippery-slope' involved, Re. artistic expression in the current
{and not-so-current} crop of Hollywood movies; simply because
you have No 'anchor' {if you will} to base what's 'moral,' versus
what's 'immoral'; other than the remnants of what remains of Your
Own {God-given} conscience; which to you.. apparently seems to
be a 'hit-or-miss' matter of your own personal tastes{!?}
 
..Specifically, though you {to your own credit} would "sooner
watch grass grow, than two men kissing" on the big screen; what
about the more 'intimate' forms of homosexual behavior por-
trayed on the 'Big-Screen'?.. even though it would before long
become one of those 'XXXX' adult movies. {incidentally, there's
no requirement for you to answer this}, but the point is, I sus-
pect that Even the self-admitted atheistic and/or agnostic YOU,
have your own, in effect 'taste'-standards {which most of us
ascribe to "moral standards"}, where your own 'Yuck-Factor'..
{if you will} would 'kick-in'.. to the point of You likely refusing
to watch a given movie! Yet, those same movie 'tastes' {ie.- form
of moral standard} might.. and likely Would Not hold true with
someone else, who is Even More 'reprobate'/'most-anything-goes'
than yourself!
.. If what I just expressed, doesn't represent a 'slippery slope';
whether one wants to call it, "moral-standards"-related, or in
your own case, a matter of each person's 'personal taste'.. if
that's Not drawing an analogy to a "moral downhill slippery slope,"
{of which I've only 'scratched-the-surface-of'; ie. I didn't address
gruesome movie portrayals of pre-meditated murder, and/or cannal-
balism, etc, etc.} then most people {I suspect} wouldn't know what
a moral degeneracy into the 'slime' aspects of Life, IS!
 
P.s- I had to chuckle when you ascribed expanding the boundaries
of 'artistic expression' to the conquering & settlement of the old
American West; because on that basis.. if taken Too literally,
then where I live, {on the 'west coast'} would be the {ah-hem}
homosexual anal and oral sex 'ultimate' in lifestyle living; with
perhaps Alaska.. settled even later, could represent the pre-
meditated murder, followed by cannalbalism {'ah-la', Jeffery
Dahmer} 'artistic expression' equivalent! {You'll have to excuse
My Own 'artistic-license' analogy}. 0:

dude, you are missing the boat on this one and about a great many things.
 
1. see those previews of batman 2? haunting man. reminds me of myself sometimes, the joker on steroids....
 
2. brokenback mountain was about loneliness and friendship. i actually really enjoyed this film except for the explicit tent scene...over-doing it there...i'll take you on on this one since it requires a sophisicated mind to appreciate.
 
"I want 'em all activated. i want bourne in a body-bag by sundown" :P
 

 

..The following has pertinence to all people who in a 'perfect
world'.. it would be nice to share major agreements with; but..
as we all know, one cannot take Any 'stand' without encountering
dissent/criticism from those who haven't Yet 'come aboard'.
 
Galatians 1:10 --
New American Standard Bible {1995}
For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.
 
GOD'S WORD Translation {1995}
Am I saying this now to win the approval of people or God? Am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be Christ's servant.
 
King James Bible
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
 
American Standard Version
For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? or am I striving to please men? if I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
 
..Regretably, I cannot honestly say that I'm a 100% "bond-servant"
of Christ {actually, not even yet 60% fully 'surrendered' to 'JC'};
but be that as it may, my apologies to my earlier, since cancelled
'shot-across-the-bow' post of mine, Re. brief posts by others, hav-
ing to do with various sporting event commentaries.
 
..If all one has to put into a proverbial cup of hot water, is an
'old rag' to make soup with {ie. posted content} then, I'll TAKE
IT!!;.. figuring, that that's the Best you can do, at this point in
time. { :
..Ps. And yes, there ARE lessons to be learned {in whatever sport}
when it comes to playing in a 'dominating' fashion{!}.. as in, 90%
"Preparation," and 10% "Perspiration"; or some such ratios.

Heath Ledger dies.
 
Commaburst makes it about himself.
 
Nice.

..'FYI'.. I was the 3rd person to post on this topic; albeit..
the most posts and number of words; 'Big Deal!'
 
..Incidentally, which is More 'out-of-place' in this whacky
world of ours? ..People who avail themselves of one of our
{U.S.} constitutional amendments {which has no limits on
the 'quantity'.. the last time I checked}, or people like
yourself 'S.C.'.. whom {I have to assume} give homosexuality,
their 'thumbs-up' approval?
 
..Surprise! ..I'm The One who's 'out-of-place' {by my own ad-
mission!} ..Enjoy our 'whacky-world' while you can, 'S.C.'

Your posts contain NOTHING about Ledger or his cinematic career.
 
Did you see Brokeback Mountain? I'm guessing no. So don't fuck*ng comment on it's themes.
 
Do you know any homosexuals? Again, I'm guessing no because people generally don't hangout with bigots who hate them.
 
I pray you and your ilk are the minority because god herself couldn't save us from your kind of stupidity in large numbers.
 
--SoCo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

..YEESH!.. Speaking of 'bigots' and its' 'near cousin'.."Hatred";
considering your usage of the 'F'-word {variant} 'SC', I can
tell that I got you 'all Hot-under-the-collar' based on my ob-
jectively, non-inflamatory opinions{!?}
 
..Based on that.. {ie. your 'short-fuse'} I suspect that for all
of your virtual ranting Re. my alledged{sp?} bigotry..N-O-T!
{Many people nowadays confuse "bigotry," with one's own de-
cided preference, in Any category!}.. Yes, I want the NY Giants
to win the "Super Bowl"; Does that make me "biggoted" against
the 'Patriots'?!} {rhetorical}
 
..Anyway, Re. your Now evident 'short-fuse' {at least 'shorter'
than mine!}.. I have a feeling that if we were to encounter
each other in person with this same type of verbal 'give-and-
take', it would be You who'd be looking to take the 'first-
swing'.. when your words/arguments failed you. {Jesus,'Saves'!}
 
Ps. Until, if or when the Admin. decides to install a 'BB-filter,' I
suggest for your own {mental-physical} health, that you 'skip-
over' {without reading} ALL of my posts!; which also includes,
my 'good {straight} buddy'{of sorts}.. "HALLofMIRRORS"{!}

All Yall
That liked Brokeback mountain must not have a moral anchor and so anyone that had anything to do with the movie deserves to die and burn in hell. That pretty much sums up all the critics of this movie. As far as the story line go's . Your up in the mountains bored with porkin sheep so after a couple shots ... what the hell . I personally thought the two cowboys were scumbags for cheating on their wives and not haveing the balls to leave them and move to Calfornia. If they were leading double lifes with hookers or mistress's i would think the same. I'm not cutting them any slack for bein oppressed homos in Wyoming for trashing their wives lives.
 
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Well said.
 
grandpa13

i know eh, stay on topic and stop ranting, gamma. i didn't consider the cheating aspect in that movie, doorman, you are right there. i guess i should revise my original assessment to 'two dumb-ass hicks do the what happened on brokenback mountain stays on brokenback mountain' :P.......ok back to heath...
 
...great actor. i think he had pneumonia, and maybe the sleeping pills was a double-wammy for him. he definitely was troubled engrossing himself in the joker roll. I think that batman film looks like a horror film now. see him as the joker walking down the street at night with that weapon??? holy man, that is a tortured, demented, and dangerous soul---the character, i mean. maybe it trasferred over into his life.
 
regardless. great actor. rest in peace and gos bless his soul.
 
Dale

I pray you and your ilk are the minority because god herself couldn't
> save us from your kind of stupidity in large numbers
 
God herself, typical of a closed minded member of ACT UP you homo bastards

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Where have you been? I welcome all your posts . Just to piss everybody off.
 
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I have been in moscow friend