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Topic started by grandpa13 on 19 Jan 2008, 14:28:41
grandpa13
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19 Jan 2008, 14:28:41
 
Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution
Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution are all part of the formula for me being here in the now. I don't understand what the argument is about. Take any part of the formula away and it would be incomplete.I would still be just an idea.
 
Now I am wondering how much my taking this position affects my chess score. I don't seem to be able to get above 1300.
 
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IBelieveInJesus
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19 Jan 2008, 23:02:55
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Re: Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution
From the 1400 zone
 
Hi GP
 
So unless you were created as an ape you would not exist?
 
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grandpa13
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20 Jan 2008, 00:44:24
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Re: Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution
I understand the 1400 zone, but I don't know what apes have to do with the subject.
 
My father had sex with my mother and I was born and from that point I evolved into the person I am today. My family history got wet on Noahs boat so we couldn't read it. But Noah said as far as he knew there were no apes in my family.
 
As far as I am concerned God disigned and created the universe and all the necessary elements to evolve into our world and to where we are today. He probable did it in six million year days, and rested on the seventh. He had a seven million year week that week.
 
This is pretty far fetched but I am probable just as close as the rest of the speculators.
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20 Jan 2008, 05:00:58
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Re: Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution
Hi GP
 
1. Evolving in character is highly different from evolution of species.
 
2. ... And there was evening, and there was morningā014the first day.
... And there was evening, and there was morningā014the second day.
... And there was evening, and there was morningā014the third day.

These verse are all in Genesis thru to the seventh day when God rested.
 
2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
Genesis 2:2-3
 
Why can't man simply believe what God's Word says rather than always attempting to put their own spin upon the equation. That, my friend, will always be a mystery to me. Besides... if these were million's or billion's of years then that wuld make for one extremely long day, would it not?
 
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grandpa13
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20 Jan 2008, 08:00:41
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Re: Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution
IBIJ
 
Look I am just pulling your leg. I would debate the subject with you, but as they say where I come from, "Your mind is closed tighter than a bulls butt at fly time."
 
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20 Jan 2008, 14:48:00
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Hi GP
 
Actually it's not "closed", but I will admit it certainly is focused on believing God's Word rather than man's notions which could make it appear closed. Unlike the bodiless spirit that never got to Heaven all you would have to prove here is that within a million years there is only one "evening/morning" and I would gladly concur. However, without that information provided I would have to ponder upon exactly who's mind is closed or open to simply accepting the things of God as they are put forth from the Word of God.
 
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grandpa13
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20 Jan 2008, 19:38:14
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Re: Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution
The word of God as you proclaim it is how you perceive it, not necessarily how the original author meant it. A person has to have a lot of conceit to believe he can explain what a writer wrote two or three thousand years ago in a completely different lanuage.
 
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1 Feb 2008, 20:32:40
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Either that or a lot of cross reference, historical reference, and other some how "meaningless" information to back their position up.
 
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2 Feb 2008, 01:32:36
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Re: Intelligent Design, Creationism, & Evolution
ramsey theory/results, complexity theory/results, fractal algorithms/results.
 
:P
 
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