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Topic started by gammaburst on 28 Aug 2007, 05:33:17
gammaburst
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28 Aug 2007, 05:33:17
 
In a Parallel Universe, there Reportedly Exists, ......

#1.. A Bill Clinton, {look-a-like{s}..in all cases} who serves
as a celibate Catholic seminary instructor.
 
#2. An online-chessplayer {devoutly religious} whose handle is:
IbelieveInThor.- Whether or not, he or she, worships a 'false'
God, or perhaps the same God {albeit, with a different name}
has not been established.
 
#3. A Donald Trump, who never got 'further-in-life' than hold-
ing down various 'odd-jobs'; the latest one, as a taxi driver.
 
#4. Both, a Larry King and Bill O'Reilly {look-a-likes} in their
same basic TV-interviewer-type jobs; only their opposite inter-
viewing-styles and personalities, have been switched.
 
#5. A Britany Spears who can sing, and without all the at-risk
moral 'baggage'.
 
#6. And a chess Web site {also curiously known as "Caissa's
Web"}..where the administrators are three-to-four times more
responsive to their members' suggestions; and not surprisingly,
their lowest number of players logged-on at any one time..
around-the-clock, numbers in the low dozens{!}
 
{This last comparison is still {theoretically} doable, in OUR
Universe!}
 
IBelieveInJesus
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28 Aug 2007, 08:47:31
 
Re: In a Parallel Universe, there Reportedly Exists, ......
Where exactly does Scripture talk about such things as "parallel Universes"? Does this "Universe" contain such travesities as sin?
 
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IBIJ
gammaburst
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28 Aug 2007, 10:17:37
 
Re: In a Parallel Universe, there Reportedly Exists, ......
..Though it wasn't the intent of my last post to enter into a
Bible discussion, as I see it, "parallel" could mean at least
two different things; ie. existing in another {molecular-vibra-
tional} dimension {as in, people who have died yet are still
sentient or aware, in a disembodied 'spirit' state}.. provided
that's how one chooses to interpret the Scripture to mean.
 
..Theoretically, they could be 'walking' among us at this very
moment {as in ghosts}.. yet, unless our eyes are "opened," we
wouldn't even be aware of their presence. And..
 
..Existing in our same physical dimension as ours, yet, provided
their civilization is far enough away, {the other side of our
galaxy, or even another galaxy} we {obviously} would not know
anything about them.
 
..As for Scriptural 'backup', in Isaiah 66 {since forgot the verse}
it reads: "Thus saith the Lord, the Heavens are my Throne, and the
earth is my footstool."
..In this analogy of our planet being a mere "footstool" in God's
'Big house'{or, universe} it seems a fitting example {from the Divine
perspective} of the size-scale insignifigance of the planet we live on!
 
..And in John 10:16, it reads: "Other sheep have I, that are Not of
this fold...." - Depending on ones' point-of-view, here, JC could be
referring to people on other continents, and/or, extra-terrestrial
civilizations.
 
..Hope this was helpful to your question; though, keep in mind..
'IBIJ', that if you want to have a 'knock-down, drag-out' {recur-
ring} debate Re. various aspects of the human "soul," or even if
there be one, perhaps "JEBUS" is 'game' for that{?!}... { :
IBelieveInJesus
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30 Aug 2007, 13:14:43
 
Re: In a Parallel Universe, there Reportedly Exists, ......
Hey Gamma
 
GAMMA SAID:
..Hope this was helpful to your question; though, keep in mind..
'IBIJ', that if you want to have a 'knock-down, drag-out' {recur-
ring} debate Re. various aspects of the human "soul," or even if
there be one, perhaps "JEBUS" is 'game' for that{?!}... { :
 
IBIJ SAID:
Given this last of your paragraphs in your post, perhaps Iâ019m â01Cbarking into the windâ01D so to speak. Yet with your recent temp handle admission it occurs to me that chess experts often live their lives in a similar fashion. Thus to voice your position and then tie it up with a nice bow of â01CI donâ019t wanna talk about itâ01D is by and large an excellent strategy. Cept of course when a renegade night bursts into your kingdom to capture as many as possible before receiving the unavoidable sword of death. And so here we are.
 
GAMMA SAID:
Though it wasn't the intent of my last post to enter into a
Bible discussion, as I see it, "parallel" could mean at least
two different things; ie. existing in another {molecular-vibra-
tional} dimension {as in, people who have died yet are still
sentient or aware, in a disembodied 'spirit' state}.. provided
that's how one chooses to interpret the Scripture to mean.
 
IBIJ SAID:
Considering the possibility of this being remotely possible anyone who cares what the Bible has to say on such matters would find themselves faced with many interpretive problems not the least of which is.
 
GODâ019s WORD:
Ephesians 5:14
for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: "Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you."
 
IBIJ SAID:
If they are not in the grave, then why does Christ tell them to â01Crise from the deadâ01D since they have already risen. Rest assured though, there are definitely ethereal forces sharing this earth with us that we are largely unable to see. Ever here of demons? Why are they largely not talked about in todayâ019s world?

GAMMA SAID:
..Theoretically, they could be 'walking' among us at this very
moment {as in ghosts}.. yet, unless our eyes are "opened," we
wouldn't even be aware of their presence. And..
 
GODâ019s WORD:
Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.
 
IBIJ SAID:
Really? If they were taking just such a walk as you say, wouldnâ019t they â01Cknow somethingâ01D instead of â01Cknow nothingâ01D?

GAMMA SAID:
..Existing in our same physical dimension as ours, yet, provided
their civilization is far enough away, {the other side of our
galaxy, or even another galaxy} we {obviously} would not know
anything about them.
 
IBIJ SAID:
Interesting concept, and I will say that I do believe life exists on other planets. But the question here becomes, if there is such a parallel universe to ours as you speak of, does sin exist there as it does here?
 
GAMMA SAID:
..As for Scriptural 'backup', in Isaiah 66 {since forgot the verse}
it reads: "Thus saith the Lord, the Heavens are my Throne, and the
earth is my footstool."
..In this analogy of our planet being a mere "footstool" in God's
'Big house'{or, universe} it seems a fitting example {from the Divine
perspective} of the size-scale insignifigance of the planet we live on!
 
GODâ019s WORD:
Isaiah 66:1
[ Judgment and Hope ] This is what the LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?
 
IBIJ SAID:
Is this the verse you were looking for?
 
GODâ019s WORD:
Acts 7:49
" 'Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me? says the Lord. Or where will my resting place be?
 
IBIJ SAID:
Or perhaps this one is? Wait, itâ019s the same verse but from a NT author. Amazing! Also interesting is that over 60% of the NT directly refers to points and precepts put forth from within the OT. Almost like taking one or the other would be kin to attempting to drive half a car. Anyways, moving onâ026
 
IBIJ SAID:
Sure, in a different way this has been my point previously. The only exception being that according to what we understand we are the only planet that chose to sin and thus we have been â01Cquarantinedâ01D from the rest so as not to spread this illness of sin throughout the galaxyâ019s. Though Iâ019ll agree that there is no definitive proof from within Godâ019s Word that we were the only oneâ019s to sin other than the next verse which you have referenced. However, if sin does exist elsewhere you can rest assured that that planet is going thru a similar quarantine as to what planet earth is experiencing.

GAMMA SAID:
..And in John 10:16, it reads: "Other sheep have I, that are Not of
this fold...." - Depending on ones' point-of-view, here, JC could be
referring to people on other continents, and/or, extra-terrestrial
civilizations.
 
IBIJ SAID:
No doubt, and when you addâ026
 
GODâ019s WORD:
Luke 15:4
"Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it?
 
IBIJ SAID:
You can further surmise that lost sheep is kin to one sheep that has sinned while the rest have stayed the course. The sheep that has sinned would be kin to us on planet earth while the rest have chosen not to sin. Anyways, your points are quite valid in some interesting wayâ019s though Iâ019d surmise that if there were a parallel existence to that of planet earth then they would likely also be dealing with this condition of sin that planet earth is currently going thru. And the likelihood of that possibility would tend to be on the remote side in my opinion.
 
Cheers
IBIJ
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30 Aug 2007, 17:23:05
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Re: In a Parallel Universe, there Reportedly Exists, ......
gammaburst
 
Get me a map of how to get to this parallel universe, and as soon as I perfect my self induced out of body experience, my soul will take a trip over to look at it. I can then check on Clinton and Trump look-a-likes and see if they are sinning, plus to see if they got any good chess sites and whatever else is going on.
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31 Aug 2007, 11:40:21
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Re: In a Parallel Universe, there Reportedly Exists, ......
Get me a map of how to get to this parallel universe, and as soon as I perfect my self induced out of body experience, my soul will take a trip over to look at it. I can then check on Clinton and Trump look-a-likes and see if they are sinning, plus to see if they got any good chess sites and whatever else is going on.
 
It may come as a surprise that I believe "out of body" experiences really can take place. Of course, I also believe in Lucifer and his demons though the power that they yield will never exceed that of Jesus Christ my risen Lord and Savior.
 
1 John 4
4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.
 
Cheers
IBIJ
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31 Aug 2007, 12:42:52
 
Re: In a Parallel Universe, there Reportedly Exists, ......
..That's a nice and comforting Scripture verse to quote, 'IBIJ',
even if the context you inserted that in {in response to paral-
lel universes and 'OBE' 'travel'} would presumably Only make
sense to your fellow '7th-Day Adventists', and perhaps, "Jeho-
vah's Witnesses," for all I know{!?}
 
..Considering that when one's heart 'acts-up' or even stops,
the only place for one's indwelling-soul/spirit to go, is to de-
part one's body {if even only on a temporary basis} as I've
experienced {among many others}.. I Hardly view that exper-
ience as 'demonic', but rather the 'natural order' of things{!}
 
..And though there's No denying that the Scripture says: "the
dead know nothing," there is a legitimate analogy that can be
made here, to the U.S. Constitution; which, when read with all
of its amendments at 'face value'.. it would preclude any U.S.
President from assuming dictatorial-like powers; yet, our be-
loved "Constitution" has unfortunately been superceded by var-
ious "Presidential-Emergency, Executive-Orders," which take
effect whenever the serving President, 'gives-the-word'!!
 
{Ps. As for why the Bible even says, "the dead know nothing,"
I suspect that "JEBUS" would be the one for you to ask{!?}
for starters; Sorry, JEBUS}.